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Does anyone test about Soul of the Archmage + TF talent. Is it possible to pair to get double cast time reduce of AB? it may consume more mana faster but we can pair with kilt and get amazing sustained dmg.

No, you can't double up the talents given by the new rings.

- The AO will only generate a single charge. Although the actual talent gives you 1 charge on cast + charges on hit, this was to be expected. idk but this guy tested it and seems like it works like normal AO. sXP_j66AUFs Just Amazing, they will nerf it XD I mean, anyone openning on stacked aoe alre...

I'm so sorry.

Hey, I haven't done any serious theorycrafting about when to cast it, but the mana back is a pretty big deal so I'm thinking it might be best on CD. Thats my instinct anyway, without any math. I think the belt will be so-so on single target, around 2-3% total damage increase. I've only done napkin m...

Hey also got the 4set late last night and had a play. It does seem to interfere with the timings quite alot I.e evocation seems to be ready to go at just the wrong time. I either have arcane power up and evocation is very close to being up so you face the dilemma for delaying arcane power to post e...

Really bummed that Erosion is becoming the best talent in its tier. I don't know why they would make a change to NT to reward you for choosing a passive. That is one tuning point I hope still changes in the PTR but I doubt it will. From what I'm seeing and Frosted's charts above it looks like NT mig...

I'm honestly surprised how low the meters drop outside of AP, seems ridiculous how little damage it does outside of AP with OP. Seems like the new fire mage haha That's just a tuning issue. But yeah it is odd that OP makes so much of your damage in your cooldown window since that seems to be someth...

So after a series of trials on the new PTR, I have had the best performance with a talent build containing the new Overpower. Unfortunately, even though this combination of talents seems to yield the most damage, it still does not compare to my performance on live. Crossposted from the WoW PTR Foru...

Sure it's slower, but I wouldn't say it's uninteresting. Quickening was only one part of it. The mana management aspect of Arcane remains and that's what ultimately makes it unique among other specs. The fact that its legendaries all revolve around mana as opposed to damage boosts should make that ...

I still had around 380K DPS on average. On live I can deal up to ~420K-440K DPS with the Quickening throttle build on a 5 minute fight (if I don't fk it up). I also have slightly less Haste and much more Mastery on live. I'm surprised by these numbers. I'm 882 on live with the legendary legs and a ...

Nothing to distinguish good players from mediocre. I really want to be wrong, I love arcane, but the heart feels ripped out of it right now. This is whats killing me. Arcane has been a middling spec all expansion but some of us have been able to do very well by working hard and mastering the Quicke...

I don't understand the mana changes. With tier set bonuses and legendaries and no quickening we'll have infinite mana. To compensate for that they'll have to make our spells do less damage, what fun is that? And the point of arcane is managing mana not ignoring it. I came here to say this. I really...

I'd say 4/10 boss fights in current content make it hard to deal with Qning, although by no means impossible. Thats the point. Quickening adds depth to the spec. It adds an area for the player to excel at differentiate themselves from other players. Removing quickening removes all nuance from the s...

My concern is whether it will turn into - like OP said - just a stale caster. Under the new talent tree with these last changes, where is a player's skill supposed to give them any reward? All builds will basically just be spam your mana away till OOM and evocate. Rinse and repeat. There is no need ...

Evoke is 90s cd on PTR too...so this is a really lackluster legendary.

Likely will be belt + bracers = top due to the burn rotation above.

Evo is a 90 second cooldown in live, as well.

With the new quickening, do we know if that mana cost will stack with Arcane Charges or no?

i.e. will each quickening stack increase mana by ~1,000 mana (3% of 33,000) or ~6,000 (3% of the total mana 198,000 at 4 charges)?

I'm guessing the first one, because the second seems like it would be awful.

Ok cool thanks. That makes sense as I didn't know much about the simcrafting only that the graph I was seeing didn't make sense.

Thanks for clarifying!

I'm not sure where the issue might be in the APL - I've tried looking but I'm not very good with that stuff. However, I am certain that either there is an issue with the rotation, or with the graphs being produced by the sim. Evocation is often being cast at up to or above 600K mana. This is horribl...

it is definitely broken and needs a nerf but the question remains: Why the made Quickening stack to 100? is there some reasoning behind this or some other playstyle? To make it essentially infinite in the normal rotation. With enormous mastery and +%AM proc, you could theoretically get up towards 5...

Yeah I fixed the quickening thing yesterday. Should be ok in the latest nightly. Sorry about that.

What is the nightly?