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This legendary in the right hands is far too strong and anyone defending it is just salty.

as far as i'm aware haste will always be good and you take it to around 35% before focusing versatility.

i'd focus on dropping only mastery for versatility.

Don't forget ice lance hits like a truck, getting more procs is a lot of extra damage.

Yo interested in this hugely. Just a few things before you type up. Ice lance is wrecking, do we cast this with fingers as priority over frostbolt or does there need to be two targets? Also during Icy-veins do we prioritise Frostbolt and glacials or can we still do icelances? Do we pre-cast ebonbolt...

This might sound abit mad, but with incanters flow and using the blink shatter for glacial spikes with flurry. I'm getting much better results because my spikes are critting more.

Can't do this with rune as the blink takes you out of it.

I don't think it was "obvious" how the build plays without trying it, and since it required an artifact respec from a traditional TV build (assuming pople don't have 30+ in offspec) I thought it was beneficial to point out the deficiencies. Anywyay, I am done with this build, and with this thread. ...

Some top logs are still using the "No Barrage" strat quite effectively. 465k on Ursoc, with no Barrages casted. This is disappointing. It was only a 4 minute fight, and they have legendary bracers, but only 48% Mastery.

880 plus ilvl and some crazy AM procs.

Arcane is good, I'm doing excellent damage. I got the bracers which helps but is proc reliant (I only had 5 procs on Nyth this week) the kilt might even be better now because the conserve phase is pretty brutal. I got 14th on mythic nyth and 1st for my ilevel. No tricks or gimmicks just 4AB - MoA - ...

I'm absolutely blown away with the arcane orb damage increase by 17% Do they think this somehow makes it worth taking over quickening? I can understand overpowered, it has a niche that might put it into our builds later on or with synergies. Orb just doesn't compete; why did they even bother buffing...

I just want them to give us a concrete rotation that doesn't always involve quickening.

Is is so much to ask?

I wonder if the other talents have more worth now we definitely will need a conserve phase.

The moment its viable to untalent quickening im doing it.

Very few players are doing over 300k on nyth as frost, in heroic or mythic. Even with item levels closer to 875.

Realistically your pulling 230-260k and above 300k on a pull where everything goes right with legendaries/insane gear.

this is with 3:30 fight length aswell so not 5 minutes.

Not sure what you're on about, arcane burst is nearly as strong as fire right now and it'll most likely be stronger once the balance patch hits us tomorrow. They're discouraging the nt playstyle. If you play the intented rotation the quickening nerf will not affect you in anyway with the current ge...

This is so weird from blizz. The "skill cap" of arcane is keeping quickening stacks. Its very easy to get hit by a mechanic and lose stacks. I myself proposed to half the stacks to 50, but it falling afterwards is a huge letdown. At the moment the way fights are, Fire mages are doing obscene burst d...

I don't have time to look through his logs. I believe we may have to discard the notion of keeping enough mana to burn for arcane power. You should be going into conserve phase as soon as you Evocate and do 1 arcane blast. Make sure to weave as many NTs between AM uses and ABs and the odd arcane exp...