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This thread pretty much sums up my feelings all expansion.. I am usually in the bottom 40% of Frost Mages.. despite my enthusiasm for the spec.. There was a brief month in Emerald Nightmare, where I could hit 1-2 targets on par with the other classes (most bosses were single target), I tried my hear...

How is GS working out in Nighthold? It seems like Single Target and even Cleave is not absolutely useless, but pails in comparison to sheer AoE requirements of most fights.

Do you just stick yo ur GS guns and just nail 1-2 targets constantly, or r u still throwing out blizzards etc?

My feedback is: Blizzard needs to be instant &/or target based (instead of ground cast), id be happy to see FoF procs used either for ice lance (as per now) or for instant cast blizzard (player chooses which, same as fire mages do). Frozen Orb also needs something, either double the FoF procs &/or ...

Hmm so my first night in Nighthold, it looks like classic Bliz development, all single target in EN, so now the standard over-correction, and its all AoE in Nighthold (well so far after about 5 bosses). The positive I believe is that it will explose Frost AoE in the rankings, which up until now, Bli...

The problem imo is its been nerfed so hard that it looks bad for them to type something like "CoC buffed by 3000%", I cant help but think its purely a PvP issue.. in PvE.. I stand my Arcane Mage in melee and pump out 1.2mill dps by just hitting Arcane Explosion over and over.. but somehow Cone of Co...

Hmm reading the patch notes today, they really buffed Fire, but Fire is already so much better in anything over 1-2 targets, like 5x better (aka Mythic+).. and Arcane too.. going to be an interesting week, I have a feeling that Blizzard have seen our 1-2 target performance.. are happy with that (whi...

Just want to add another whinge on Blizzard (the spell not the company!).. since last year I unfortunately picked up the Legendary 'Blizzard' belt, im still yet to land an actual dps gaining legendary.. which is a shame cause its the 1 spell I just dont like in the rotation, it usually does about 10...

Another small thing I noticed today, Ebonbolt now procs a brain freeze instead of 2xFoF, seems like a small change, but I think a little bit less fluid, might mean less FoF procs getting munched though.. I assume the rotation would be: Ebonbolt > Frostbolt > Flurry > Ice Lance. The other one im more...

FB > BF > IL Should always be better even if you munch every proc FoF. Because you are still getting a shattered IL either way, but with FB first you are also getting a chance to crit a FB and lower IV cd. This is a really useful post thanks, is the idea that flurry will travel faster than a frostb...

My feedback is: Cone of Cold needs to hit like a brick (as it used too), they tried to make it a 'slow' spell and I can understand it needs to be balanced for PvP, but it makes no sense in its current PvE state, ive only kept it on my hotbar because im praying they will fix it again & its a muscle r...

I thought the shatter bonus was more about following that Instant Flurry up with an Ice Lance? Feels clunky as though, double GCD, really knocks out your casting rhythm I find, esp during a burn phase (hero/IV/RoP etc) Winter's chill (procced by BF'ed Flurry) causes all spells to treat the target a...

I thought the shatter bonus was more about following that Instant Flurry up with an Ice Lance? Feels clunky as though, double GCD, really knocks out your casting rhythm I find, esp during a burn phase (hero/IV/RoP etc)

They reversed the Arcane Mana cost changes (back to 125% per charge), so thats a shame, but ill give arcane a try in coming months, my Frost Wep is now Rank 35, so its a good time to experiment, and keep a set of mastery gear. As for Frost AoE, I mean if you follow that other M+15 post from Raddley,...

For the Flurry thing, just read Brain Freeze tooltip. Your freeze effects break 0.5 sec after the target takes sufficient damage. Ice Nova behaves slightly differently: it cannot break for the first 0.5 sec and then breaks instantly when the target takes enough damage. However, in a dungeon, this p...

Could someone actually clarify a few frost fundamentals for me? o Flurry - Why does it guarantee an Ice Lance crit? All its adding is a movement slow, which you could get from Frostbolt or Blizzard, but that doesnt seem to do anything for you. o Shatter adds massive crit chance against 'frozen targe...

Originally Flurry would cast three consecutive spells that hit in succession, effectively extending the debuff on the target. For reasons I may have forgotten, the spell was changed to shoot the three bolts at the same time. The flight time of the spell hasn't changed, allowing frostbolt to still b...

I also had a question on the "FB > Flurry > IL" you mention, in previous patch it felt like an awesome double stuttering Flurry into a free IL, watching them both zoom off.. it made me rly happy to be a frost mage.. like i was unloading 'the bomb'.. but then visually it stopped working in recent pat...

We spend so much time talking about raids (single target), that this is the first ive really thought about our AoE, Raddley's Mythic+ Guide is here and its the frost bomb *wink* but the thing that I wanted to break down was the data on Ice Nova vs Splitting Ice (i.e. that it takes 7 Ice Lances to su...

Mythic Plus Guide

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Most appreciated.. I didnt realise how much more I need to do to get the numbers im after.. you are seriously maxxing the buggery out of the frost talents there!

haha okok.. point well made thx!