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yeah this is true, it appears to be more of a feel thing for me, I'll update the OP to reflect it.

@Drozzy I understand how it works, but I would make the argument again that since you're gaining FoF procs at an insane rate during fast phase, especially if you frozen orb, being able to unload those procs instantaneously is a huge benefit to saving icy veins (again for a very short time <10 second...

Hey @Drozzy, I'm not entirely sure how to quote properly on here so i'll just type it out. In response to Icy Veins being stronger by gloves during your long phase this was correct as Norrinir pointed out, and although it was at one time easier to maintain Icy Veins Chilled to the Core only lasts fo...

This isn't all inclusive obviously and some of this might not be the "perfect" suggestion, but I wanted to get something up while there are a lot of people switching to frost because of hotfixes and disappointment with fire.

I figured I'd create this post after seeing a few questions on discord and getting a few questions in game about dps in Nighthold. Especially with the reduction in Frozen Orb cooldown from Blizzard there are a few things I think can help in normal and heroic Nighthold. I haven't stepped into mythic ...