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Nice discussion,

many mages look to these forums for facts so we can adjust our personal play styles. Opinions are warranted, just please label them as such.

regarding rotation,

with so much AOE/cleave in NH... will anyone try orb builds? i.e. Skorpyron

@rue
for Guarm I would try Amp, Slip, RoP, CU, Chrono, ErSN, OP
barrage when you need to move, CU, AM. get in color, Rune burn.

prepot, MoA, CU. RoP, AP, PoM ABAB, -AM/B/s op ---- cu rune lust opening?

Agreed. Looking at Cast logs on high parses that use the same legendarys can be very helpful. (under casts, under player, then switch to timelines). IFlows for mobility fights? with the 10% missing from Rune i went IF on Mythic Odyn... a heavy mobility fight...going to try rune next week to compare....

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damn man mythic titanforged and socketed gear and 2 of the best legendaries, nice gear man

/flex

everyone else got 8 or 12% increases fire got 27% ...

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/character/18066020/10/" target="_blank http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/arthas/Kythos/advanced" target="_blank Feel free to message me on discord FlowMage#8037 TLDR: been arcane for months now and I feel like they nailed it. it look months of target practic...

looking for same for Prismatic Barrier. /bump

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great discussion so far, I feel everyone's excitement! in 7.1 there was no alternative talents... Now... I feel that talents and gear (especially with T19 2/4 piece and legion-daries) are now going to change drastically due to activity; BGs, Arena, raiding, M+... and mechanics. I feel the talents ar...

Super excited about the changes, wait for all the FoTM mages to come over to the arcane xD Only did a couple Mythic+ and Heroic EN last night, felt much stronger and yet felt very sloppy at the same time. the easiest way I can describe how i feel about Arcane now is it feels flexible. --- my warlock...

Arcane Familiar has been updated as a flat 60 minute buff with visual... so it will be 100% less of a pain. so thats nice...

I feel raid talents will fluxuate on bosses now, especially in NH.

Excited for tomorrow and the 20+ hours this week on the hall on a target dummy.

for Live, NT or Erosion is personal preference... NT at full charges when you can... throwing it up at 0 charges is not going to do much, but its better than nothing... Use RoP directly after every MoA, and the other one, if you have the mana to spend or have full AM charges... use it at your digres...

please add or comment, for live Mythic+ for 1 mob- refresh NT, AB and AMs for 2 mobs- target back and forth casting NT on the new mob for more AM, AB and AM... for 3-4 mobs (most trash packs) ~NT MoA RoP AP AE x4 Barrage (with resonance) AE X4 NT Barrage. = they Dead. or throw in SN and just spam AE...

dragon's breath helm from M+0 Halls from odyns chest
Shard of The Exodar from The Huntsman Kara

Not a expert on the topic but 5% on the opening lust combustion on a 2 combustion fight ....vs less than a % of crit .... is a big difference. I see some fire mages using 840/850 ilvl Gnawed Thumb Ring... IDK.

And yes. Arcane #1 xD I will take your bracers off your wrists if you like

@lith this makes sense... I admit I stopped trying to go for the second AP HQ burn because I was running low on mana early... Was not throttling / slow casting after Evocation because I was going a lower mastery build and figured barrage rotations would suffice... It doesn't. Haha It was also pointe...

Thanks @Rue and @Lith! One thing to note after checking out your logs Lith is you have the Runemaster Kilt so Resonance over Supernova, and my guess is you do not need to throttle, you can barrage rotation with the Kilt. At the same time I am sure there are small things I am missing that I need to w...

One mistake that was pointed out to me... I thought NT snapshots RoP... It is dynamic... I was NT after RoP and only catching the last tick of MoA in AP and rolling the next RoP into the ap burn... Suggested core Prepot, abx4, NT, MoA, RoP, AP to ABs and AMs second RoP burn to 0, evo... Hard throttl...

Moderator note: moved to Q&A. Greetings Fellow Magi! First off I am really glad we have a great site to share and learn. This site has been rather helpful compared to many other resources out there. Are there any Log detectives, analysts, and or scholars that can find areas to improve? https://www....

@Rue

Regarding the recent blue post... they just mean that at this point they are done with most of the talent changes and are trying to level out the playing field for balance by being able to do a overall 'Arcane +2% or Arcane -2%' without having to go in and tweak every damage spell.