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by Breaktheice
Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:18 pm
Forum: Post Questions & Ask for Help >>Here!<<
Topic: Arcane - trinket help
Replies: 5
Views: 4209

Arcane - trinket help

I was hoping if you guys would help me pick between trinkets for Arcane. Here's what I have: + t18 4 PC + Mythic Darmac + Mythic Blackhand + Normal Archie (705) + Normal Hellfire High Council (690) AMR seems to shoot for Mythic Darmac + Normal Council, yet guides seem to favor Archie over Council? I...
by Breaktheice
Thu Jul 30, 2015 6:13 pm
Forum: Post Questions & Ask for Help >>Here!<<
Topic: Shatterlance seems to be a dps loss?
Replies: 2
Views: 2928

Re: Shatterlance seems to be a dps loss?

If this is in reference to my guide, I need to update it. After some testing with Shatterlance + 4 PC, it's actually way more complicated than it seems. The complexity comes from the fact that during Water Jet, each Frostbolt can proc 2 FoFs and 1 BF proc. Given that Water Jet already yields 1 BF pr...
by Breaktheice
Sun Jul 26, 2015 4:40 pm
Forum: Frost
Topic: [SimC] WoD Frost SimC Disucssion
Replies: 94
Views: 85900

Re: Frost Simcraft changes

Sounds great. I am assuming by AOE sims you also included the Add waves one? Yes. Have you noticed Frost potentially being better off without glyphed IV when it runs with Frost Bomb, as in such a case where a Haste build tends to pull ahead of a Multistrike one? I was tinkering around with Simcraft...
by Breaktheice
Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:32 pm
Forum: Frost
Topic: [SimC] WoD Frost SimC Disucssion
Replies: 94
Views: 85900

Re: [SimC] WoD Frost SimC Disucssion

Hey Komma, I've put this in the other thread but I'll ask here too... Have you noticed Frost potentially being better off without glyphed IV when it runs with Frost Bomb, as in such a case where a Haste build tends to pull ahead of a Multistrike one? I was tinkering around with Simcraft and for some...
by Breaktheice
Sat Jul 25, 2015 11:18 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Frost Talents, Stat Weights, Racials, Trinkets, FAQ
Replies: 479
Views: 447439

Re: Frost Talents, Stat Weights, Racials, Trinkets, FAQ

^You can check that via the APL of the default Frost mage profile. My question is, been simming my mage without glyphed Icy Veins on Frost Bomb builds and it actually does better than with glyphed Icy Veins? Anyone else seeing this? :shock: Edit > Granted, Bomb doesn't inherit MS but still... wante...
by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 24, 2015 6:02 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Frost Talents, Stat Weights, Racials, Trinkets, FAQ
Replies: 479
Views: 447439

Re: Frost Talents, Stat Weights, Racials, Trinkets, FAQ

^You can check that via the APL of the default Frost mage profile. My question is, been simming my mage without glyphed Icy Veins on Frost Bomb builds and it actually does better than with glyphed Icy Veins? Anyone else seeing this? :shock: Edit > Granted, Bomb doesn't inherit MS but still... wanted...
by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:10 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

So there are a couple questions I'd like to ask in case I misread things and missed it or just flat out misunderstood. 1. Why is it an issue to start channeling Water Jet when already at 2-3 stacks of FoF? If I am finishing a cast of Frostbolt and it creates a 3rd FoF. I then channel Water Jet as I...
by Breaktheice
Thu Jul 23, 2015 6:38 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hellfire Citadel Mage Tips
Replies: 139
Views: 196912

Re: Hellfire Citadel Mage Tips

Problem with PC and Frost is the only hard hitting spell into it is IL via FoF provided you cleave, so it hits for 160% but everything else hits for just 110%. I don't like it either. Risk is way too high given the amount of bonus damage it deals versus the other talents. The second issue I have wit...
by Breaktheice
Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:21 pm
Forum: Post Questions & Ask for Help >>Here!<<
Topic: 6.2 and Arcane
Replies: 1
Views: 2380

6.2 and Arcane

Hi Arcane Blasters! :geek: My question is simple: has much changed for Arcane since patch 6.2 has hit in terms of rotation/talent choices? I went to my OS Arcane after a 5 month period and didn't play it (wanted to) because I wasn't sure of what all has happened. Also how massive is the disparity be...
by Breaktheice
Thu Jul 23, 2015 4:17 pm
Forum: General Discussion
Topic: Hellfire Citadel Mage Tips
Replies: 139
Views: 196912

Re: Hellfire Citadel Mage Tips

Just some contribution from what I've observed. + For Frost, Mirror Image is insanely close to Incanter's Flow in damage on paper, but will probably win on actual single target encounters should you spend any GCDs on non offensive casts (like Blink, Invi/Greater Invi, Ice Block, etc.). MI will pull ...
by Breaktheice
Wed Jul 22, 2015 9:32 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: The telltale signs of frost done wrong in logs?
Replies: 3
Views: 7998

Re: The telltale signs of frost done wrong in logs?

Since the majority of Frost's damage comes from procs, you'll want to see if he's using these correctly. So what you would compare: 1. Fingers of Frost procs to Ice Lances cast (number should be close, non-FoF IL shouldn't really be used) 2. Brain Freeze procs to Frostfire Bolt cast (the FFB cast sh...
by Breaktheice
Sat Jul 11, 2015 3:47 pm
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

Actually the intent of the Flowchart was what I explained, Max FoF? IL > FB > IL 3 FoF? FB > IL In practice the 4 PC is really hard to properly use, not only because encounter mechanics can force you out of a DPS rotation, but also because the flowchart discounts BF procs/use. Going into WJ with 1 x...
by Breaktheice
Sat Jul 11, 2015 1:09 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

+ During Water Jet, if you're max FoF, you IL > Frostbolt > IL. Even if you have the class trinket? The chance to waste an FoF proc is worth missing losing the extra damage from that first IL b/c it wasn't proceeded by Frostbolt? Well the dicussion here is about 4 PC, not 4 PC + Shatter lance. The ...
by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:50 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

It looks to me you should still cast frostbolt when you have 4 stacks of FoF, and an IL should be followed instantly after that FB. The reason is that the last FB won't proc you FoF until it hits the target, while the following IL will immediately consume 1 stack of FoF. Therefore, it becomes into ...
by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 10, 2015 10:41 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

This 4 PC is actually really OP if you get 100% use out of it. Issue is even with Ice Floes you probably can never utilize it to its 100% effect, which is fine really. It's just additional windows of opportunity for FoFs, which when paired with Shatterlance passive is hella OP, especially on cleave ...
by Breaktheice
Tue Jul 07, 2015 9:28 pm
Forum: Frost
Topic: Water Ele and 6.2 - buggy :(?
Replies: 5
Views: 7532

Water Ele and 6.2 - buggy :(?

So anyone else finding Water Ele a little buggy in 6.2? To be more specific + There are times when as your Water Ele ramps up a Water Jet (the 1s starter), you can for some reason use Freeze and he will use both Freeze and Water Jet. This doesn't happen all the time, but I don't recall it ever happe...
by Breaktheice
Tue Jul 07, 2015 7:57 pm
Forum: Frost
Topic: Breaktheice's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)
Replies: 180
Views: 261565

Re: Breaktheice's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)

IIRC, even in Normal Highmaul gear, Frost Bomb was out simming Ice Nova on Single Target (assuming proper use, of course). I don't know where Icy Veins gets their info, but I don't see Nova trumping Frost Bomb, but it is amazing for bursts (add management). As for AoE, Unstable Magic relies heavily ...
by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 03, 2015 11:26 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it
Replies: 31
Views: 32776

Re: Got Frost 4PC, not certain on how to best use it

From my guide:

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by Breaktheice
Fri Jul 03, 2015 1:01 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Breaktheice's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)
Replies: 180
Views: 261565

Re: Melvyn's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)

Update on 7/3/2015 1. Goto tags everywhere! A big thank you to Komma for the tip. Now, you can cruise to the Table of Contents and click to read a specific section. 2. Cleaned up some of the info on talents choice explanation. 3. Re-arranged the single-rotation section. More specifically: a. Water J...
by Breaktheice
Tue Jun 23, 2015 11:44 am
Forum: Frost
Topic: Breaktheice's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)
Replies: 180
Views: 261565

Re: Melvyn's WoD Frost Mage Guide (updated for 6.2)

If you have 1 FoF proc and 1 BF proc, it wont matter which one you use first. But logically, FoF will take priority over BF because of what you said "If you have 2 FoF, FoF has prio." Try to think of the scenarios you could be in when you're juggling both procs simultaneously. 1 FoF and 1 BF = doesn...

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