Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
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I apologies if that question was asked before.
How can we maximize chances for proc on crystal?
I already pull without precast, place crystal on "1" countdown, but most time (i think in 70-80% pulls) doom proc on boss.
There is something complex with RPMM on pull?
I read something about "time_since_last_proc" parameter in RPPM formula, that parameter reset only on bosses?
I apologies if that question was asked before.
How can we maximize chances for proc on crystal?
I already pull without precast, place crystal on "1" countdown, but most time (i think in 70-80% pulls) doom proc on boss.
There is something complex with RPMM on pull?
I read something about "time_since_last_proc" parameter in RPPM formula, that parameter reset only on bosses?
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
Felmouth Frenzy is known to increase it but I haven't confirmed if it has a travel time and it's a hoax. A more solid way to increase chance is to hit the crystal and then move the boss on it even if it's a minor dps loss. The trinket needs 226 seconds to maximize its proc chance so fast pulls do not favor it.
PS. I also thought that "70% of the time" it goes on boss but we may just be pessimists and it might be an illusion because it doesn't hold any mathematical merit. If anything, the opposite should be true because the crystal is the first registering damage hence the probability of application is higher on it than on what it hits, if it didn't proc yet. Of course, there might be bugs or quirks.
PPS. It is likely that Unstable Magic skews our expectations because of the way it works. It might be registering damage first on enemies before the crystal. I wonder what the simcraft coders know about this.
PS. I also thought that "70% of the time" it goes on boss but we may just be pessimists and it might be an illusion because it doesn't hold any mathematical merit. If anything, the opposite should be true because the crystal is the first registering damage hence the probability of application is higher on it than on what it hits, if it didn't proc yet. Of course, there might be bugs or quirks.
PPS. It is likely that Unstable Magic skews our expectations because of the way it works. It might be registering damage first on enemies before the crystal. I wonder what the simcraft coders know about this.
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
My first guess was also about unstable magic, then i try lot of pulls with supernova slotted, subjectively same results - most time proc on boss.
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
I made a question about it at the PoF thread because that's probably the right place to go on about it.
https://www.altered-time.com/forum/view ... 354#p22354" target="_blank
https://www.altered-time.com/forum/view ... 354#p22354" target="_blank
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
That might not be different because Supernova likely registers first randomly to one of its targets (or rather "randomly" to the perspective of the user) and the enemy might be before the crystal.My first guess was also about unstable magic, then i try lot of pulls with supernova slotted, subjectively same results - most time proc on boss.
Or, there might be an inherent delay of application to the crystal. I consider that unlikely though because the crystal is an NPC and on those things NPCs are likely identical.
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
You dont understand, i try lot of pulls with supernova sloted and im not using supernova before proc happens.That might not be different because Supernova likely registers first randomly to one of its targets (or rather "randomly" to the perspective of the user) and the enemy might be before the crystal.My first guess was also about unstable magic, then i try lot of pulls with supernova slotted, subjectively same results - most time proc on boss.
Or, there might be an inherent delay of application to the crystal. I consider that unlikely though because the crystal is an NPC and on those things NPCs are likely identical.
I slotted it mainly to negate unstable magic influence on pull doom proc, to check the following statement - "prismatic damage can proc doom nova".
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
In that case there is nothing that can change the order of application and it is clear that the crystal will get the first hit. Maybe it really is plain old pessimism creating that impression. An alternative reason would be that the trinket has a higher chance to proc on higher level targets because the crystal is only 101 and the bosses 103.
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
I might have missed something, but I thought it was much better having that proc on boss, to get double aoe via cristal ...
Am I outdated ?
Am I outdated ?
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
Prismatic Crystal gets hit when Mark of Doom is on it.
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Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
outdated?, i dont think anyone has ever said mark is better on the boss then crystal.I might have missed something, but I thought it was much better having that proc on boss, to get double aoe via cristal ...
Am I outdated ?
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
http://www.altered-time.com/forum/viewt ... f-rotation" target="_blank
I was using this cycle. I understand that when proc on boss, having PC will trigger the explosion on boss and on cristal (then on boss a second time), better than directly on cristal, hu ? What am I missing exactly ?
I was using this cycle. I understand that when proc on boss, having PC will trigger the explosion on boss and on cristal (then on boss a second time), better than directly on cristal, hu ? What am I missing exactly ?
Re: Howto maximize chance for proc on crystal?
Mark of Doom is not detonated from the damage pulses of the Prismatic Crystal. This would create an infinite loop where Mark of Doom hits the crystal, causing it to pulse, triggering Mark of Doom which would hit the crystal etc. It simply cannot work that way.
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