T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

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T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Fleks Sat Jun 13, 2015 11:15 pm

There was one for for T17 Sets to rank the sets between classes,from dutch if i remember correctly,is anyone working on one? would be pretty nice to see who benefits the most
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Smaiki Sun Jun 14, 2015 3:43 pm

I was also looking for this. As I haven't found anything, I just made a sheet by myself today for the classes with the vanquisher token (mage, druid, dk, rogue).
I used the current T18M profiles.
Note: I don't know if all class bonuses are already implemented and working as intended (e.g. DK Unholy 2pc)

All information is subject to change.
Do NOT take the numbers too seriously as some APLs are still in progress as Komma mentioned!!!

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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Frosted Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:04 pm

Using the mythic profiles is a bad idea, they are using the legendary ring still.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Komma Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:16 pm

I wouldn't put too much trust in that chart. It is extremely misleading.

Rogue APLs are still legacy from T17 and doesn't utilize the T18 bonuses as much as they can. A completely new subtlety APL is underdevelopment at MMO-C Rogue forums. DK APLs are also questionable, especially unholy.

Arcane's 2T18 is a preliminary implementation that hasn't been tested against different spellpower levels. I also don't think it will stay as powerful as it is right now. All mage profiles also don't make any effort to sync towards the ring. Right now, rings are being used every ~3 minutes, instead of ~2 minutes as it would be the case in a raid. Also, damage done TO PC and FROM PC is being double counted for the explosion.

In general, tier bonuses are usually expected to provide 4-6% gains, with 6-8% on the high end. That clearly isn't the case right now.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Fleks Sun Jun 14, 2015 8:35 pm

Well,the ring wont matter for Progress anyways,i was just curious if dutch made another chart like for t17.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Dutchmagoz Sun Jun 14, 2015 9:55 pm

Well,the ring wont matter for Progress anyways,i was just curious if dutch made another chart like for t17.
I have not I'm afraid. Not sure if I will be able to before the patch since as komma pointed out the APL's are sitll very much work in progress and the rings cause for a lot of misleading data.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Fleks Sun Jun 14, 2015 10:18 pm

Well,the ring wont matter for Progress anyways,i was just curious if dutch made another chart like for t17.
I have not I'm afraid. Not sure if I will be able to before the patch since as komma pointed out the APL's are sitll very much work in progress and the rings cause for a lot of misleading data.
Well i was only looking for one without rings,as i said before they wont matter for progress/heroic splitraids,sad to hear there is none but thanks for the answer
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Smaiki Mon Jun 15, 2015 8:51 am

As I mentioned in my post, I wasn't sure about the current state of all specs (APL etc.) and I also do not take the numbers seriously. Let's just say this might be a very very very first draft. I keep that image here as it might be exciting what numbers we'll have later on and how they change over time.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Bashlow Wed Jun 17, 2015 12:19 am

There wont be 14 Patchwork single target fights in t18, so this TL DR is kind of unfinished in my opinion
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Kasc Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:02 pm

A more fleshed out spreadsheet by Skullflower: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =908715831" target="_blank
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Griepen Wed Jun 17, 2015 3:23 pm

A more fleshed out spreadsheet by Skullflower: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... =908715831" target="_blank
That's amazing! Thank you.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Zyrachiel Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:23 pm

I know this is arcane on Patchwerk in vacuum when the stars align but bloody hell, 109k? I thought I'd go pure crit fire for the tier but not going arcane just seems like folly.
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Re: T18 Set and Trinket Spreadsheet

Unread postby Frosted Wed Jun 17, 2015 5:31 pm

Fire really isn't very good on anything outside of AoE in HFC I don't think.

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