State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Notdev Wed Jun 24, 2015 12:19 pm

It's in the official notes now, icicle shouldn't proc it anymore.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Imnick Wed Jun 24, 2015 3:04 pm

It's in the official notes now, icicle shouldn't proc it anymore.
Good to know, thanks.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby gallamann Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:23 pm

Komma, Frosted, et al... thank you for the overview
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Searix Wed Jun 24, 2015 7:38 pm

Been playing around with Prophecy of Fear tonight, really hard to see without a weakaura.

Anyone who knows how to work weakauras could you supply us with one? Similar to the 4pc fire WA?

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duZ0baWsevTlLITruAMIknxkYSf5Mkv3wj7KsAVWUPQ9lv(PuAykL8BQmyPQHtu1bjsoMGoNOIfsKAPerlgrwUqpf1YicpxuMOuyQinzjnDsVwbxfrPlRY1PuBuk6XiSzj2oIIdRQPPO(Sc9DIkJerLtty0uOXRuQtsjUfrX1OGZlWFPOgNI8nrvJqqblaBXRxS8eNjleoFMPNKij0aZKspXGX3xnV(4WvNR3RgbNbwInHB2AZm4f4k4kOG3UTuYofnL1q(CMNcNYBWq(PPCMqrMzdGjCUu1jNhsdoEJcNNgi)bwq48GdAlLStHvzKDcS3ErJIXXlMbRHG1OyC8IGc2jNV1NcG0GT9cfS(XXtb7)1LbkSgcE)JdD9UsxFdNBbfC9izxk0a5pWKtkj3Bs2CHcwubVlLKKVRVTzxFJ22DWj3xbfCvukcc7Kgak4LDsfGcfk4OlDGcEzNubOqHcw)05vqbVStQauOqbhFIduWl7KkafkuOqb)GcE)JdD9UsxFdNBb2IxVy5jotwiC(mtpjrsObMjLEIbJVVAE9XHRoxVxncfmzG1WzjcHca
This works well, thanks!
I was going to ask if there was news about the icicle bug, but then realised that nobody on live servers has the item yet :P
Weird that you didn't see me literally like 2 posts before you say i got it last night and could test it for you :P

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DOES NOT work with icicles
edit: Doom nova can multistrike

any other things you guys want me to test let me know
Last edited by Searix on Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:23 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Charmander! Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:13 pm

I am quitting the game over the completely unnecessary change to cone of cold's graphic.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Komma Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:20 pm

Image

DOES NOT work with icicles
works with multistrike

any other things you guys want me to test let me know
Contradictory to your post, your image shows Doom Nova NOT being triggered by multistrike, which is the correct behavior.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Searix Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:22 pm

yah was just about to edit it, it multistrikes but does not proc off multistrikes
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Searix Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:28 pm

few more things i noticed:
t17 4pc (10 missiles) procs 10 times of doom nova
affected by incanter's as previously confirmed (damage ranges from 11kish-14kish)
prismatic crystal cleaving (it procs on main target, you cast crystal and attack crystal) DOES NOT proc it
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Komma Wed Jun 24, 2015 8:31 pm

Hey guys, feel free to make separate threads in the spec forums for discussing tier bonuses, trinkets, and how you think they should be used. Let's keep this thread on topic. :)
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Neculsa Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:04 pm

Thanks for all these posts.
Finally I found you here, Komma DA SHEN :)
In the past I saw many of your post in NGA forum. At that moment I thought you might be simply a player in US or EU server. However, I didn't know you are one of the administrator of "Altered Time" until just now. I got surprised and shocked.
I feel so jealous about your English :(
To be honest, many opinions in this analysis are pretty novel and I didn't see any similar discussions in NGA (Mage section of NGA is so boring now!). If possible, could you transfer all this to NGA forum and initiate a huge discussion?
Wanna show my thanks again!
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Komma Wed Jun 24, 2015 10:18 pm

To be honest, many opinions in this analysis are pretty novel and I didn't see any similar discussions in NGA (Mage section of NGA is so boring now!). If possible, could you transfer all this to NGA forum and initiate a huge discussion?
Wanna show my thanks again!
Thanks for the compliments.

Unfortunately, with how slow my Chinese typing is, it might take about a month to finish moving the whole post to NGA. Someone else can use the NGA points anyway.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Latonius Thu Jun 25, 2015 12:00 am

Asking for clarification's sake, for FROST, Unstable Magic currently outranks Frost Bomb for cleave specs before obtaining the T18 set bonuses, correct?
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Imnick Thu Jun 25, 2015 10:17 am

Asking for clarification's sake, for FROST, Unstable Magic currently outranks Frost Bomb for cleave specs before obtaining the T18 set bonuses, correct?
As far as I was aware, Unstable Magic increases in value when you gain Archimonde's trinket, with its bonus "If you cast an Ice Lance directly after a Frostbolt it deals bonus damage", rather than due to either tier set bonus.
The trinket greatly increases your Frostbolt casts (so more UM procs) while decreasing the frequency of your Ice Lances (only slightly fewer procs, but never back-to-back, so less frost bomb burst and more recasting).
Losing Frost's current 4 set also slightly decreases Frost Bomb's value, due to the fact that you will have slightly fewer ice lances until you get the new 4 set bonus.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Ayonjia Thu Jun 25, 2015 11:33 am

Thanks Komma, I'm late to this thread, but was still a great read. :)

Sad to hear your guild fell apart, hope you find a new raid home to suit you soon.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Latonius Thu Jun 25, 2015 4:53 pm

Asking for clarification's sake, for FROST, Unstable Magic currently outranks Frost Bomb for cleave specs before obtaining the T18 set bonuses, correct?
As far as I was aware, Unstable Magic increases in value when you gain Archimonde's trinket, with its bonus "If you cast an Ice Lance directly after a Frostbolt it deals bonus damage", rather than due to either tier set bonus.
The trinket greatly increases your Frostbolt casts (so more UM procs) while decreasing the frequency of your Ice Lances (only slightly fewer procs, but never back-to-back, so less frost bomb burst and more recasting).
Losing Frost's current 4 set also slightly decreases Frost Bomb's value, due to the fact that you will have slightly fewer ice lances until you get the new 4 set bonus.
Thank you so much for answering this question on here and on MMOC. I should've rephrased the question to include the trinket as well. I was going about HRC Assault fight all wrong last night.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby flyinfungi Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:42 am

New Notes

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/198038 ... -6-25-2015" target="_blank

Armor Sets
Tier-18 2-piece set bonus for Arcane Mages' summoned heroes now deal 40% less damage.
Tier-18 4-piece set bonus for Frost Mages now increases the duration of Water Jet by 10 seconds (up from 4 seconds).
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby Jebbage Fri Jun 26, 2015 4:53 am

New Notes

http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/198038 ... -6-25-2015" target="_blank

Armor Sets
Tier-18 2-piece set bonus for Arcane Mages' summoned heroes now deal 40% less damage.
Tier-18 4-piece set bonus for Frost Mages now increases the duration of Water Jet by 10 seconds (up from 4 seconds).
Those were on PTR.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby jimme Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:25 am

Yeah, was about to ask if these numbers is with the 40% nerf to the anomoly's damage. Guess they are.
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Re: State of the Specs (June 20, pre-6.2)

Unread postby hawk9378 Fri Jun 26, 2015 3:00 pm

It's been fixed, via a blue post 2 days ago

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