Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby Komma Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:29 pm

Pretty sure nothing has a higher maximum than (AB/AM to 3-4 ACs with MoD somehow not proccing or proccing double) + (MoD procs on PC) + (Mage chooses when to use ring) + (AM procs on most of the opening ABs, along with being used ASAP). The problem, same as everything else, is how often you get that to happen.
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Unread postby Frosted Fri Oct 30, 2015 6:42 pm

More probable/slightly lower maximum? Dunno. When I looked at comparisons of PC timings on the pull for MoD abuse I only looked at average DPS (text display). Didn't bother going into the HTML and looking deeper.
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Unread postby magictricks Sun Nov 01, 2015 8:08 pm

Yeah ideal would be to get to 4AB, have 3 AMs proc, AP, PC lust, then AB and MOD on PC, unload all your AMs in the PC and then spam AB's in to the PC, you'll get 400k DPS opener easily.
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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby Carwey Mon Nov 02, 2015 6:31 am

Boy oh boy. Current rank one on Iron Reaver peaks at 992k DPS during the opener and that number will only get higher with full ilvl upgrades and 795 ring.

edit*Never mind, I was just stupid.
https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/pv ... w=timeline" target="_blank

What I find especially interesting is that there's no consistency whatsoever between the top parses in terms of openers as every other one seems to be using a different one. Guess that just speaks for the amount of RNG this tier. As long as the killtime is good it doesn't really matter what you're doing as long as you have good procs.
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Unread postby Rinoa Mon Nov 02, 2015 7:06 am

Kind of seems like it.

The log you posted has him using PC at 0 charges, by the way. Seems like he uses it right before the pull.

I think it's quite interesting that such a large amount of the top parsing Mages are trolls. Berserking appears to be quite insane on the opener.
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Unread postby Curnivore Mon Nov 02, 2015 9:52 am

Boy oh boy. Current rank one on Iron Reaver peaks at 992k DPS during the opener and that number will only get higher with full ilvl upgrades and 795 ring.
Let alone Arcane Missiles in the middle of a burn is an inherently high RNG part of the spec that won't go away with the trinket, exacerbated now further with the Tier 18 bonuses.
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Unread postby Carwey Mon Nov 02, 2015 1:42 pm

Kind of seems like it.

The log you posted has him using PC at 0 charges, by the way. Seems like he uses it right before the pull.

I think it's quite interesting that such a large amount of the top parsing Mages are trolls. Berserking appears to be quite insane on the opener.
Ah right, that makes a lot more sense. :P
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Unread postby magictricks Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:26 pm

Kind of seems like it.

The log you posted has him using PC at 0 charges, by the way. Seems like he uses it right before the pull.

I think it's quite interesting that such a large amount of the top parsing Mages are trolls. Berserking appears to be quite insane on the opener.
if you PC before the pull and crank up your AB just before the boss is in position you actually dont lose much dps time, probably less then half a second,
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Unread postby Curnivore Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:43 pm

Don't you lose seconds on that PC being there being only hit doing 0 damage?
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Unread postby magictricks Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:34 pm

Well if you do it that early then yes, but its not hard to time it so your first hit lands as the boss gets there.,maybe you lose 1 second :p.
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Unread postby Thisgame Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:44 pm

Kind of seems like it.

The log you posted has him using PC at 0 charges, by the way. Seems like he uses it right before the pull.

I think it's quite interesting that such a large amount of the top parsing Mages are trolls. Berserking appears to be quite insane on the opener.
Troll racial during ring is the most insane thing in the game presently. I really really miss being troll since our guild went Alliance.
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Unread postby Searix Sat Nov 07, 2015 2:18 am

Kind of seems like it.

The log you posted has him using PC at 0 charges, by the way. Seems like he uses it right before the pull.

I think it's quite interesting that such a large amount of the top parsing Mages are trolls. Berserking appears to be quite insane on the opener.
Troll racial during ring is the most insane thing in the game presently. I really really miss being troll since our guild went Alliance.
It's not all roses. It's pretty easy to go over haste cap with racial + lust
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Unread postby DyLemma Sat Nov 14, 2015 2:28 am

I'd imagine PC0 has a higher maximum, but just a lower average. So if you're on farm it'd be better for rank chasing? I suppose.
You mean higher average, lower maximum.
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Unread postby Wilderness Sat Nov 14, 2015 3:54 pm

I'd imagine PC0 has a higher maximum, but just a lower average. So if you're on farm it'd be better for rank chasing? I suppose.
You mean higher average, lower maximum.
No, he didn't. Higher max, lower average - ie good for trying to rank but not for progress.
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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby ingileif Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:40 am

Hello, guys!
Just a quick question: can PoF proc on the boss when the boss takes damage from PC?
Excluding UM/SN from the consideration at this point.
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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby magictricks Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:41 am

Hello, guys!
Just a quick question: can PoF proc on the boss when the boss takes damage from PC?
Excluding UM/SN from the consideration at this point.
yes.
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Unread postby Lammer Wed Nov 18, 2015 6:43 pm

Does the fixed amount of damage of DN proc (which is in description of trinket) scale with ilvl of the the trinket (warforged, valor boosted), or it grows only for a fixed amount, depending on whether it is normal, heroic or mythic trinket?
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Unread postby Wilderness Wed Nov 18, 2015 7:07 pm

It scales as the ilvl increases, whether its wf or valor.
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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby magictricks Tue Dec 08, 2015 2:37 am

I recently got mythic POF and wanted to get some rough numbers of it's procs on pull, so i spent an hour or so doing pulls on manaroth and resetting with G invis.

Talents were SN, ROP, PC.
I dropped ROP, PC,AP then fired 4 ABs in to my crystal. 0 Means it did not proc on anything, 1 means it procced on crystal, 2 meant is procs on the badguy (fell iron summoner).

0,0,0,1
1,1,0,0
0,0,0,0
1,0,2,0
1,0,0,0
1,0,2,0
2,0,0,0
2,0,0,0
0,2,0,0
2,0,0,0
0,1,0,0
1,1,0,0
0,0,0,1
0,2,0,0
2,0,0,0
1,0,2,0
2,0,0,0
1,2,0,0
1,2,0,0
1,1,0,0
1,1,0,0
1,0,1,0
2,0,0,0
1,2,0,0
2,0,0,0
1,1,0,0
0,0,2,0
1,2,0,0
1,1,0,0
0,2,1,0
1,0,0,1
0,0,1,0
0,0,0,0

I know it's a tiny sample size but i plan on doing 200 or so pulls and getting a rough proc rate of crystal vs bad guy.
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Re: Prophecy of Fear [Megathread]

Unread postby Searix Tue Dec 08, 2015 5:40 am

Would be nice if you did get the full 200 samples, here's your data so far

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