Nov 25 Hotfix Changes

[Komma]

Apparently some hotfixes went live last night. Fire and Arcane have noticed some buffs.

https://twitter.com/CM_Lore/status/537307911328759808" target="_blank

Edit: Changes are posted! http://us.battle.net/wow/en/blog/165616 ... 11-25-2014" target="_blank
Arcane:
- AB +10%
Fire:
- Pyroblast +35%

Let's concentrate the discussion in this thread.

[Komma]

Preliminary thoughts and predictions:
Arcane:
1. Arcane will still be behind Frost on dungeons, because fights are short and Frost has a very strong opener.
2. Arcane should be viable for Highmaul.
Fire:
1. This is more a bandaid than a fix. Hopefully they change something after first week of normal Highmaul.
2. Fire is still non-viable.
3. Fire's DPS variance will increase, since Pyro is purely based on crits.

[Wilderness]

Pretty underwhelming as someone hoping for some Fire love. Yes, that will be an increase but it was so far behind that it still isn't going to be viable. I guess we'll have to wait for the 1st week of raids for Blizzard to realize how bad it is right now.

[Garrod]

At least Arcane and Fire compliment each other right now so that I can have Arcane set up for Single Target and Fire set up for high cleave/AoE. Anything to avoid playing Frost for me haha.

[Dyasis]

While I like the small buff to Arcane, I don't think it's going to make huge changes. I'm sure they will do another pass after the 1st or 2nd week of Highmaul...

[aycheff]

Anyone who was expecting huge changes going into Highmaul next week is a bit naive imo. Pretty obvious these are just little bandaid fixes Blizz put in before Highmaul in order to attract mages to play or at least fiddle around with the other specs this upcoming week. Unfortunately for Fire, it seems Arcane is the only one who been moved up in terms of viability for first week.

I think after the first week of Highmaul or so we'll see some meaningful changes. Hopefully Blizz gets a better grip on Fire or knows something we don't cause that's where most cause of concern is.

Let's hold out just a little bit longer guys.

[Zombie240]

At least Arcane and Fire compliment each other right now so that I can have Arcane set up for Single Target and Fire set up for high cleave/AoE. Anything to avoid playing Frost for me haha.

You're forgetting the almost comical amount of aoe burst Frost can set up

With any scenario requiring burst cleave/aoe, you can save your CDs for it and put up some stupid numbers, more so if they're somewhat stationary. Orb seems to be doing more damage than in MoP (could be wrong, though), and on large pulls in heroics/CMs I've been experimenting with: orb + blizzard + nova w/ 4-5 stacks of IF (ignoring FoF procs for groups of 4+). Blizzard is nice since it's one of the few spells left that doesn't "spread out" the dmg (ala comet/PC), and reduces the cd of orb drastically.
That simple rotation alone equated to over 1mil dmg on the ragewing whelps in UBRS CM

[Magiclol]

Yeah frost is doing great numbers for me in heroics. I've been a little slow to gearing due to some personal reasons, but the last two nights on my grind from 590 ilvl to 616 ilvl I have been 1st on trash and 1st or 2nd on bosses unless there was a 630 ilvl dps in the group.

Bursting 40k at ~610ilvl was leaving everyone in the dust.

[Mumrit]

I'm happy with the approach they're taking as long as they keep taking it. Small buffs leading up to the raid is better in my opinion than a large buff the day before.

[Garrod]

Played around with Fire last night rocking 25% crit, still wasn't worth playing. I hate everything.