Arcane 2PT17 "trick"

[Araitik]

Hey guys,

Currently 2PT17 allows you to pre-cast Evocation, gain the Arcane Affinity buff (AB cost and cast time reduced by 25% for 15 sec), switch to your regular gear and engage fight. The debuff does not fade away when removing gear, nor when engaging in combat (which was the case with the very old T10 bug)

Don't know if this is a good choice / dps boost, just throwing this here.

Enjoy (maybe)

[taroboba]

Won't that put evocation on cooldown?

[nickseng]

And what's the point of switching gear?

[Velerion]

I'm guessing the idea is you have 4pc t18 at that point so you switch back to it. Still leaves the issue of evo on CD.

[Quetesh]

Evo on CD so what is the point if you can't burn in the first minute?

[Unbearievabl]

What if you were to combine it with the T3 2pc which reduces Evocation's CD by 1 minute? I could see that being viable but a pretty rare setup.

[Imnick]

Then evocation would be on CD for a minute and you still wouldn't be able to burn
There's no situation where you want to cast evocation prior to the start of the fight

[Rueko]

Then evocation would be on CD for a minute and you still wouldn't be able to burn
There's no situation where you want to cast evocation prior to the start of the fight

If combined with tier 3 2 piece and t17 2 piece, then you actually would have Evocation on a 30 second cooldown, which would bring it back up in time.

[Stressball]

With a 30 second CD you still have to sit on AP for probably 10 seconds with the mage trinket once you hit 4 stacks on pull. If you are playing PC and are waiting for your PoF debuff to drop then it could be worth it, but GG anytime some moron in your group pulls early.

[Chev]

As you can see from the Sim's below, Evo on pre-pull is a DPS loss. Using the T3 2pc is also a huge loss due to the reduction in stats.



I knew this would be a loss so I didn't waste too much time in optimising the APL for the T3 2pc. E.g. Rather than use PC, I used OP (on all profiles) because otherwise the APL will not start the burn until PC is ready, even if Evo is off CD. I also didn't swap out any other gear other than head and belt so I could use T3 without breaking up the 4T18. This will have put the actor(s) under the 1300 haste BP and I didn't do anything to get that back. TL:DR. If working hard enough, you probably could close the gap some more but I don't think you could find a way to make up 19k to atleast put it on par with the default profile.

P.s. These results are the product of 2 sims merged via MS Paint because the command to override the CD for Evocation is a sim wide setting and I didn't want it to effect the control profiles. (before anyone tries to discredit the results and say the non-T3 profiles will also be befitting from the CD reduction)

[Unbearievabl]

I was thinking evo pre pull and then switch back to normal gear, either way not worth I don't think.

[Darthy]

he was referring to evocating prepull with 2 t17 and 3 t3 equipped then switch all your gear back to t18 so the stat values shouldnt matter, so simming pretty much with the buff up the first 13 seconds while burning exactly when the buff disappears would have to be checked, but i doubt there are so many people having t3

[kuro]

if you do something like that what happens to your mana when you swap gear?
does that mean you pre evo and quickly eat food to regeain mana from the mana drop?

[Offroad]

I got T3 and T17, tested it on dummy in garrison and it works.

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[Searix]

This does work, is a dps boost, but i can guarantee it will soon get hotfixed

[Chiv]

if you do something like that what happens to your mana when you swap gear?
does that mean you pre evo and quickly eat food to regeain mana from the mana drop?

Lvl 100 base mana is always 160,000 and intellect doesn't give you more mana anymore so it would stay the same.
The only thing that drops your mana is changing specs (like back in BRF, drop a feast, go fire, mirror images. switch back to arcane and your images would stay)

[Darthy]

Although once you get your tome this might obsolete since you wont be running glyphed ap and youll oom within the first 15 seconds of ap which means you either delay ap for 15 seconds and lose your trinkets and enchants (Which again with PoF might be desirable) or you cant evocate after 15 when you need to. So many maybes though

[Grazer]

Although once you get your tome this might obsolete since you wont be running glyphed ap and youll oom within the first 15 seconds of ap which means you either delay ap for 15 seconds and lose your trinkets and enchants (Which again with PoF might be desirable) or you cant evocate after 15 when you need to. So many maybes though

That is not really a problem since you can start casting evo like 10 seconds before the pull. By fully channeling it you will gain the buff at ~5 s. Evo CD will be starting at t=-10, so it will be back up 20 seconds after the pull. Considering build-up time, evo CD works out just fine.