T20 arcane tier bonuses

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T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Cashmerekat Wed Feb 15, 2017 8:57 pm

2P Bonus Greater Invisibility instantly grants you 4 Arcane Charges. When you leave Greater Invisibility, your damage is increased by 20% for 12 sec.

4P Bonus Casting Arcane Missiles reduces the remaining cooldown on Greater Invisibility by 5.0 sec.


http://www.wowhead.com/news=260284/7-2- ... et-bonuses" target="_blank

UPDATED:

Mage T20 Arcane 2P Bonus: Casting Arcane Missiles reduces the remaining cooldown on Presence of Mind by 4.0 sec.

Mage T20 Arcane 4P Bonus: Presence of Mind instantly grants you 4 Arcane Charges and increases your damage done by 10% for 15 sec.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Chiv Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:02 pm

Not a fan of tying our defensive CD with offensive use. I'd like to save my greater invis for periods of high damage!
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Jhazz Wed Feb 15, 2017 9:28 pm

Opener:

MoA-RoP-GInv-PoM-AP-ABspam...

We won't be casting a properly offensive spell until our 6th action :o We're basically ranged rogues, starting the fight stealthed.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Arindiel Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:18 am

Also if i aint blind i see buffs for fire and frost and 0 changes for arcane...i mean wtf are they thinking
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Causese Thu Feb 16, 2017 12:43 am

would rather like to see MoA proccing it than Ginv :roll:

I also think u wanna cast GInv before RoP since RoP>GInv
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Chiv Thu Feb 16, 2017 1:10 am

Also this could mean it'd be a good combo running 4pc tier 20 with 2pc tier 19? The increased chance of missiles is pretty strong with the 4set T20.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Xelian Thu Feb 16, 2017 10:24 am

Also this could mean it'd be a good combo running 4pc tier 20 with 2pc tier 19? The increased chance of missiles is pretty strong with the 4set T20.
That was my first thought as well. The 5% Missile chance is huge to be lost and without 4pc of 7.2 the invisibility won't be aligned with AP. That means you will have to get rid of you mana legendaries though... Only Rhonin remains.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby loonatiq Thu Feb 16, 2017 11:02 am

I really hope that they will change it for some other abilities. This simply makes no sense.

Stacking 2 T19 and 4T20 seems to be way to go. I just hope I get some other legendaries before it goes live since I have all armor related ones - hat, kilt, boots.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Deltoramasta Thu Feb 16, 2017 8:38 pm

These set bonuses are pretty silly. Arcane's burst is already pretty good with Overpowered+Rune; adding another % modifier to the mix is just asking for trouble. This also puts even more emphasis on having Shard of the Exodar, which is already a pretty absurd legendary for ST Arcane. I could see Bracers/Ring being the best combo with 2pc T19 and 4pc T20 and 3 AmChance relics.

However on another note; having to use your defensive for offense is a horrible idea; as seen from the Blur incident for Demon Hunters that was reverted. I suppose we still have Ice Block, but why make our other defensive tied to our damage? It just doesn't make sense to me, but its still PTR - we'll see if they decide to change anything.

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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Kythos Fri Feb 17, 2017 2:04 am

Agreed with this and posted all over blizz forums.

the best defense is a good offence?

more surviveability? yay... having it being tied to our burst combos?
Blur for DH,
Outlaw sprints,
dispersion for sPriests ... all reverted...

it also seems to lock in all the damage amplifier talents, back to 1 talent tree with everything else being DPS loss...

really wish it paired well with ORB and or Temp Flux, which i feel are more fun rotations. maybe with good AM RNG it will be really good... which brings us back to parses where RNG can be huge differences in dps.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Kythos Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:08 am

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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Cashmerekat Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:22 am

Also if i aint blind i see buffs for fire and frost and 0 changes for arcane...i mean wtf are they thinking

7.2 is still a long ways away, i doubt they are going to leave arcane as it is.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Revash Sun Feb 19, 2017 8:23 pm

Also if i aint blind i see buffs for fire and frost and 0 changes for arcane...i mean wtf are they thinking

7.2 is still a long ways away, i doubt they are going to leave arcane as it is.
Well I really hope so as well. Spamming greater invises as a damage increase? I am not a amused...
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby yarafx1 Wed Feb 22, 2017 11:01 pm

Item - Mage T20 Arcane 2P Bonus Name changed from "Item - Mage T20 Arcane 4P Bonus" to "Item - Mage T20 Arcane 2P Bonus". Casting Arcane Missiles reduces the remaining cooldown on Greater Invisibility by 5.0 sec. Presence of Mind by 4.0 sec.
Item - Mage T20 Arcane 4P Bonus Name changed from "Item - Mage T20 Arcane 2P Bonus" to "Item - Mage T20 Arcane 4P Bonus". Greater Invisibility Presence of Mind instantly grants you 4 Arcane Charges. When you leave Greater Invisibility, your damage is increased by 20% for 12 sec. and increases your damage done by 10% for 15 sec.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Ronark Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:19 am

I can see the bonus being reduced to 1-2 seconds; Having almost 10% off the cooldown for each cast will be insane. This would also complicate the opening a bit, will end up looking like:

* ABx4 to drain mana
* Mark (restores 15% mana)
* Abarr to clear stacks
* Rune/PoM
* AP burn

With CU, you'd pre-cast AB then use CU and maybe 2 casts of AB to drain mana for Mark again.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Sura Thu Feb 23, 2017 3:49 am

Mage T20 Arcane 2P Bonus: Casting Arcane Missiles reduces the remaining cooldown on Presence of Mind by 4.0 sec.
Mage T20 Arcane 4P Bonus: Presence of Mind instantly grants you 4 Arcane Charges and increases your damage done by 10% for 15 sec.
(based on mmo champ)

I'm quite happy with this change - even if I don't know if i will have enough mana to fully utilize these boni xD
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby gurudox Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:47 pm

This seems like a pretty nice bonus on paper - it will make our secondary burn phases a little more flexible, since we won't need to ramp up into them, going back to only needing to watch mana management. Will be nice for jamming a burn phase into one of those small windows where some of the more complicated mechanics might have limited us in the past.
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Re: T20 arcane tier bonuses

Unread postby Cames Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:27 am

Well, you also get another set of 4 AC for use with Kilt.

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