Time and Space

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Duturu
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Time and Space

Unread postby Duturu Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:29 pm

After a lot of playing with the new golden it seems like the clone and the arcane explosion can both proc arcane missiles, meaning the chance doubled to get a AM proc from AB = AM proc from AE.

Wouldn't this mean to always use AE on 2+ targets? Before the reason was, even tho you do more damage, you get more AM procs from using AB.
Suda
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Suda Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:38 pm

There is a thread below already discussing this with several comments. Just an FYI
Duturu
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Duturu Fri Apr 14, 2017 8:53 pm

There is a thread below already discussing this with several comments. Just an FYI
Just saw it, only discussion is that you can fish for AM procs before a fight tho.

My guess is that the clone has a proc chance and it doesnt matter if it hits a mob or not while the normal AE also has a proc chance which is mob dependant. Also noticed I get 2 AM procs in a super quick succession sometimes.
Bupawo
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Bupawo Sat Apr 15, 2017 3:52 am

I don't know if it would still be worth it since I feel like mana consumption is way higher spamming AE instead of AB. You'd need to get in melee too. But yeah if you need to dps on the move it's still a lot better than before to spam AE.
Duturu
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Duturu Sun Apr 16, 2017 4:17 am

I don't know if it would still be worth it since I feel like mana consumption is way higher spamming AE instead of AB. You'd need to get in melee too. But yeah if you need to dps on the move it's still a lot better than before to spam AE.
Actually AE is more mana friendly than spamming AB. my AE does 2,1dmg per mana and my AB does 3,1. So I'd so 4.2dmg per mana on 2+ targets.
Bupawo
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Bupawo Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:56 am

I think you got your answer ahah. As long as your RL strat let's you get in melee it's AE > AB right now I guess! Not really a fan of the design but yeah DPS > design I suppose.
Duturu
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Duturu Sun Apr 16, 2017 8:41 pm

I think you got your answer ahah. As long as your RL strat let's you get in melee it's AE > AB right now I guess! Not really a fan of the design but yeah DPS > design I suppose.
Might aswell bring another melee to the fight seeing how strong they are right now! Logs > Mechanics ;^)
Pkm
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Pkm Sun Apr 16, 2017 9:00 pm

Wait really? With this trait arcane should just stop using AB?? For ST?
seoh
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby seoh Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:26 pm

Wait really? With this trait arcane should just stop using AB?? For ST?
Did you read the the above posts? They clearly state that it appears to be that AE>AB on 2 targets, because the AM proc chance is now the same as AB. There is no mention of ST.
Pkm
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Pkm Sun Apr 16, 2017 10:44 pm

I was certain it was AE on 2+ targets anyway, even before this trait.
seoh
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby seoh Mon Apr 17, 2017 2:37 am

Prior to this AB was still better because of AM procs.
Duturu
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Re: Time and Space

Unread postby Duturu Mon Apr 17, 2017 10:46 am

I did some testing, with the gear I am wearing in the videos my Arcane explosion does 321k dmg and AB 645k.

AM proc cost;
AB 380k mana
AE 253k mana

Dmg per 1% mana;
AB 3,2
AE 2,4

I actually tried out if just arcane explosioning was viable in pure ST. Dmg turns out to be suprisingly pretty good.

Test #1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nymaZHgTEPM" target="_blank
Test #2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrZD1lbOT78" target="_blank

Someone can probably calculate if its worth just using arcane explosion on singletarget with AM dmg.

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