Low Parse for Heroic TOS

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Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby gethorin Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:49 pm

Hi All,

I have run Heroic TOS a handful of times and believe I have a firm handle on the rotation and the mechanics (could be wrong). However, when I compare my DPS to other arcane mages in the same ilvl bracket I am severely underperforming. I am below the 10 percentile in some of these fights. Below are the links to some of my logs for a few of the fights. Specifically Goroth, Harjatan, and Mistress Sazzine are the areas of interest. The others are throw away.

As a note I do not have either of the BiS trinkets, I am wondering if this will help make up for a significant amount of the DPS I am missing. I am also curious to see what you guy think about my secondary stats, and if they need to be adjusted.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/ ... n/gethorin

Thanks in advance for the help!
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Re: Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby Swigswooty Fri Nov 17, 2017 11:54 pm

I'm by no means the best but let me try to help you out a bit. I'll focus on your Goroth log. The thing you have to understand about arcane mage is that we are a spec that revolves around doing a large portion of our damage in short burst windows through Arcane Power. The best leggos for pure ST damage are Soul of the Archmage and Shard of the Exodar for this reason. Faster arcane blasts means more of them that are buffed by AP and Shard gives you a second time warp to use in conjuntion with a burst window. So inherently people in your ilv bracket with these items are going to do more damage. Now on to the main stuff. Your stats seem to be super high in haste with vers not far behind and then you kinda just leave crit and mastery in the dust. For your stats i would suggest getting used to simming yourself through sites like https://www.raidbots.com/simbot because the legendaries you have on as well as set bonuses alter your stat weights. For a general rule of thumb though you could use Vers>=Crit>Haste>>>Mastery>Int. Basically what im trying to say is your crit is really low. i would suggest taking quite a bit of your haste and vers and put it towards crit. Mastery is almost useless especially since you're running Kilt. As for the fight itself. It seems you used Arcane Power pre-pull then cast PoM, RoP, and MoA. This means that by the time you even start casting AM or AB your AP is almost over. The only thing you should be doing after you press AP is spamming Arcane Blast and Arcane missles for the duration of the AP. So for your opener on pure ST fights like this one practice pre-potting at 2 sec before, then MoA 2 sec before pull, into Rop, then press AP/PoM/Racial/On-use Trinkets and spam away. I hope this helped you some, if you want logs to reference just look at the top 10 people on those fights or you can use mine for reference. https://www.warcraftlogs.com/character/ ... swigswooty
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Re: Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby testacular Tue Nov 21, 2017 1:30 pm

Also, I need to add that on Mistress you are going to severely underperform unless you go full retard AOE spam since that's how ppl get those crazy numbers there.
As a reference I can show you my mage's logs on HC Mistress where I even pick the so-much-hated Arcane Orb talent -> https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/c ... &boss=2037
I can still do 2mil DPS and rank 90 (or 95)+, just by spamming eels with AoE.

Similar story goes with Harjatan and being able to mash down the adds. While full AoE isn't the best way there, Arcane Explosion is still your best friend when the adds show up. Using your dmg CDs on them will also severely boost your chart performance (while not really being much useful for overall raid performance as those adds don't present much of a hassle).

Bottom line is, compare yourself on ST bosses such as Harjatan, on any AoE fight the logs winner is the guy who is assigned to adds.
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Re: Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby gurudox Tue Nov 21, 2017 6:41 pm

I honestly wouldn't worry about your parses right now if you haven't been raiding TOS long. A lot of the high parses out there are coming from mythic raiders on farm clears that have been doing TOS since day one, and they're most likely being allowed to ignore or cheese mechanics to increase their parses.

As long as bosses are dying, you're doing fine. Your performance will improve with time.

FWIW, many of my heroic parses were historically above 95th percentile, but inflated parses from the last two months or so have pushed them down 15-20 percent.
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Re: Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby timmywitt Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:19 pm

I'm by no means the best

I'm gonna go ahead and disagree with you there, Swoot.

https://www.warcraftlogs.com/rankings/s ... fficulty=4
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Re: Low Parse for Heroic TOS

Unread postby Swigswooty Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:08 pm

To be honest i never even thought to look up just my realm lol. Thats pretty cool, but i really only care about being towards the top when it comes to all realms. Just really competitive xD

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