12th of january Hotfix

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12th of january Hotfix

Unread postby wolfman Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:34 am

Incineration now causes the Mage to gain 15% (up from 5%) more of the Critical Strike stat from all sources.
Pyroblast’s damage has been reduced by 5%

What do you guys think? I'm loving the extra crit. Is this just a scaling fix for BRF? Anyone know what this does to the overall numbers? Im sure this will help smooth out the RNG.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

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Preheat
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Preheat Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:47 am

Using napkin math and some sketchy sims I'm coming up with it being about a 1.6% increase
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Figdan Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:49 am

^ what preheat said
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby wolfman Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:51 am

15% on 1000 is 15? ummm 150? Am i missing something?
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby wolfman Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:53 am

thats for 6.1 ptr, this is a 6.0.3 hotfix
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Figdan Tue Jan 13, 2015 5:53 am

yep im just a retard and tired. dont mind me
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Zarbin Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:53 am

15% on 1000 is 15? ummm 150? Am i missing something?
it isnt a 15% increase, its a 10% increase (because it was already 5%), and its not adding 10% crit, its increasing your crit by 10%, so if you were at 40% you'll be at 44%
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Azo Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:54 am

thats for 6.1 ptr, this is a 6.0.3 hotfix
Yeah, I put this in the stupid-box.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Komma Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:57 am

Preliminary sims say ~1% nerf to single target, ignoring the haste change.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby wolfman Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:09 am

so if this is a 1% nerf why even do it? smooth out RNG?
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Gnomecuddler Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:38 am

Hmmmm not sure what I think about this. If it's only a 1% difference I guess it doesn't matter much.

Would this make Kindling more viable?
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Becks Tue Jan 13, 2015 9:49 am

Yes, but it still won't be better than Meteor/PC in real fight environments until you can reduce Combustion to < 60 seconds. Then it would shine.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Komma Tue Jan 13, 2015 10:21 am

so if this is a 1% nerf why even do it? smooth out RNG?
I imagine it's to address scaling concerns. By reducing the amount of damage contributed by Pyroblast, they reduce the gap in the secondary stat scaling between Fire and all the other classes.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Mybull Tue Jan 13, 2015 2:17 pm

what i feel with the new hotfix is to close the gap between geared fire mage vs not-so-geared fire mage

and less RNGs..

for me im a Pyroblast! person, which is a huge % of my total dmg comes from Pyroblasts. a 5% nerf will definitely hurt alot, however, with the increase of the crit and haste rating, i might pump out more pyros perhaps? cant really tell till tested out tomorrow.
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Nisroc Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:01 pm

according to posts on Mmo champion and twitter theese class tunings should be live allready on US (havent been home to test on EU yet)
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Re: 1/12 Hotfix

Unread postby Hakkasuru Tue Jan 13, 2015 3:40 pm

They are live on Draenor EU. Went from 39% to 42.64% crit.

Didn't really notice much difference compared to before just slightly less rng with fireball.
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Re: 12th of january Hotfix

Unread postby Dutchmagoz Tue Jan 13, 2015 4:38 pm

Edited the title for international community.

Interesting change, both buffing and nerfing the scaling of fire. Shouldn't really change much in our current gear, but in BRF+ gear I think this is a scaling buff. 15% more crit from gear, and 1.3 modifier from CM is basically getting 1.5 crit per 1 point of crit.

Don't really think this change has any noticible effect until we get more gear.
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Re: 12th of january Hotfix

Unread postby Zarbin Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:04 pm

I figured that this is a pre-emptive nerf to BRF 4pc
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Re: 12th of january Hotfix

Unread postby Preheat Tue Jan 13, 2015 8:50 pm

It seems like blizzard is trying to keep each spec pigeon-holed into having their attunement stat be their best secondary with these changes. Despite this, unless fire 4p gets changed I don't see crit overtaking mastery in mythic ilvls.

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