[7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

[Tralf]

How are the WQ Int/Crit trinkets comparing to others? If you added it to the single target 840ilvl list, where would it stand?

[willemh]

I dont understaind the pairwise trinket comparison. Why is the orb of voidsight (heirloom trinket) showing up on top, while alone its not even close to the other trinkets?

[Adimera]

I dont understaind the pairwise trinket comparison. Why is the orb of voidsight (heirloom trinket) showing up on top, while alone its not even close to the other trinkets?

The heirloom trinket is still strong against demons with its 10% dmg bonus,aside from that its weaker than the rest. Thats why he simmed against demons and non-demons.

[Frosted]

Added thing on food

[Nivek]

Is it worth using dragons breath with the 100% damage increase legendary on ST?

[Rhuan]

How are the WQ Int/Crit trinkets comparing to others? If you added it to the single target 840ilvl list, where would it stand?

Please, if you have time, do it for us.

I Have a 850 Int/Crit with socket an i am thinking that it is better than Darkmoon 850..

[whisperingsage]

Is it worth using dragons breath with the 100% damage increase legendary on ST?

According to sims, yes. It's just about as much of a priority as meteor, living bomb, or cinderstorm.

[Hybr1d]

How are the WQ Int/Crit trinkets comparing to others? If you added it to the single target 840ilvl list, where would it stand?

Please, if you have time, do it for us.

I Have a 850 Int/Crit with socket an i am thinking that it is better than Darkmoon 850..

Although it's not in the large list it might give you an idea of relative strenght - my sim (847 fire mage, unenchanted/gemmed) showed that the 835 Devilsaur Shock-Baton was a 2000 DPS increase over my 845 int/crit stat stick.
So, I'd say they are somewhere in the middle of the lists, maybe slightly above average. Since I've had no luck with dungeon drops, I'm still running my 850 and 845 int/crit trinkets. I feel like the Baton has been nerfed already in proc rate (only 2-3% damage on a mythic dungeon boss).

[Frantik]

The heirloom trinket is still strong against demons with its 10% dmg bonus,aside from that its weaker than the rest. Thats why he simmed against demons and non-demons.

Does this mean that the heirloom will be good to use against Xavius for example as the only demon in EN? or after having access to trinkets from the raid it will be obsolete?

[Mage]

Looking at stat weights it appears that statstick trinkets int/crit and int/mastery (st/aoe) are top3 when rolled 840 or more. Shame I only managed to get 835 ones.

[Nyaline]

And if I have a 850 with int/haste? Atm I got 835 devilsaur and 840 chrono shard

[Adimera]

The heirloom trinket is still strong against demons with its 10% dmg bonus,aside from that its weaker than the rest. Thats why he simmed against demons and non-demons.

Does this mean that the heirloom will be good to use against Xavius for example as the only demon in EN? or after having access to trinkets from the raid it will be obsolete?

Just guessing but looking at how much better EN trinkets are for now I'd not use the heirloom trinket if I had access to http://www.wowhead.com/item=139323/twis ... bonus=1807" target="_blank, http://www.wowhead.com/item=139326/wrig ... bonus=1807" target="_blank or any dungeon trinket that rolls high enough.

[Mage]

And if I have a 850 with int/haste? Atm I got 835 devilsaur and 840 chrono shard

haste is significantly lower than int/crit on ST or int/mastery on aoe, so probably disenchant material.

[Decessus]

How was this graph created in simc?

[kamui]

Hi Frosty,

Any updates on EN trinkets?

Thanks!

[Thisgame]

Is it worth using dragons breath with the 100% damage increase legendary on ST?

Yes

[Xenost]

It will be really hard to itemize out of raid, there are maybe 5-6 crit main items in EN, world bosses may be better though.

[lopstar]

Mythic+ is where u wanna get your items.

[Xenost]

That's what I implied, WQ will probably jump in ilvl too, but it seems unnatural to gear that way.

[Falq]

That's what I implied, WQ will probably jump in ilvl too, but it seems unnatural to gear that way.

It's first raid of the tier, there is always something wrong about it. Still better choice than in Highmaul. In Highmaul best classes were classes with their best secondary stats on Highmaul items since you had no other option to gear up and HC Dungeon -> HM Mythic iLVL jump was too high.



It feel balanced that you have to do various things in the game to be BiS geared, would be great if we could NOT get WQ for items we already have maxed or have them more rare, so gear we get in EN will help us gear somewhere else. Can only dream about it thou