[7.2] Fire Talents, Trinkets, Racials, Stats, Legendary

[Breakerzeus]

Hows Flame Patch doing? Which fights in NH would you favor it over LB?

I prefer FP over LB at the Botanist. It's just insane DMG when all 3 of them are active. You can place FP all the time under them and you get tripple DMG. I like it.

[kaNEt]

Hows Flame Patch doing? Which fights in NH would you favor it over LB?

I prefer FP over LB at the Botanist. It's just insane DMG when all 3 of them are active. You can place FP all the time under them and you get tripple DMG. I like it.

i also use it for chromatic little adds, its crazy how dmg increase with the patch at 4 adds + boss

[wizardsnz]

i guess LB only good on guldan . skorp . spellblade right?

btw about flamestrike worth is good on +3 w/o FP?how about with FP

[Fonzey]

good evening

Today i drop fire gloves and just have 1 good legendary.... the bracer.
i will use the gloves and i wanna know one thing:

How Combustion works with mirror image?

Best thing you can do is pretend you never got those gloves.

I've got gloves and bracers, by far my best sim output is to run RoP and Meteor with these gloves.

That way, meteor lines up better with combust (you don't need to delay either) and you drop a meteor with RoP each time.

It's not an ideal gear combo to work with,but using it with this talent combo makes it at least somewhat of an improvement over a utility legendary.

[Imaskar]

Don't forget, that LB is good for priority target damage, because you only spend 1 gcd in 12 sec. While FP may yield you better numbers, it will be pure aoe, evenly distributed between targets.

[Paxtelemanus]

Just wondering if anyone has done any testing on Koralon's Burning Touch. More specifically if its better to just spam scorch and not use up the free pyro cast unless combustion is up as it feels like a dps loss when scorch is guaranteed to be around 450k and non-crit pyro is around 270k.

Additional information. I have the 4 set of Tier so it MAY just be better to consume the the hot streak as it could give that 20% haste, but still, just wondering if anyone has done the research already. I just got the belt and want to know how best to maximize it.

[schmeebs]

Just wondering if anyone has done any testing on Koralon's Burning Touch. More specifically if its better to just spam scorch and not use up the free pyro cast unless combustion is up as it feels like a dps loss when scorch is guaranteed to be around 450k and non-crit pyro is around 270k.

Additional information. I have the 4 set of Tier so it MAY just be better to consume the the hot streak as it could give that 20% haste, but still, just wondering if anyone has done the research already. I just got the belt and want to know how best to maximize it.

have to keep in mind that Hot Streak makes the pyro contribute double to ignite, though I think your numbers might be off, (or you are using RoP instead of MI like I usually do) but my non-crit pyros are about 300k, not 270, with 11% mastery that means about 366k damage on noncrit, then my scorch crits during execute are about 370-400k (Potential Power Potion and pyretic incantation being the damage range I would assume), so scorch might do more than a non-crit power, but its not that much, and even with having dropped quite a bit of crit, I am crtting 57-60% of my pyros, I don't see it being better to spam just scorch, 4pc procs even more point towards using Hot Streak.

[Ricottapie]

good evening

Today i drop fire gloves and just have 1 good legendary.... the bracer.
i will use the gloves and i wanna know one thing:

How Combustion works with mirror image?

Best thing you can do is pretend you never got those gloves.

I've got gloves and bracers, by far my best sim output is to run RoP and Meteor with these gloves.

That way, meteor lines up better with combust (you don't need to delay either) and you drop a meteor with RoP each time.

It's not an ideal gear combo to work with,but using it with this talent combo makes it at least somewhat of an improvement over a utility legendary.

I got the gloves last night. I've never been that guy who complains over legendary drops (even thou my first drop was foreskin lol) but i was really dissapointed. Since i'm a big fan of MI and how it works so well with Combust, i feel it's kinda mandatory to go back to RoP at this point.
But w/e, still better than norgannon's. And i'll try it your way and do some sims Thanks for the info!

[jimme]

OK.

I have marquees bindings.

On top of that with metronome, whispers in the dark, 4 set etc. we have a lot of haste procs that will reduce the cast time of our pyroblast.

I have the standard bindings weak aura that just shows the remaining time on the buff.

However, I think that I saw on a stream once a guy that also had the cast time of the pyroblast in that same weak aura. I would help a lot in determaining if you can get it off within a rune of power, or if you will even finish the cast before the buff expires.

Does anyone have the "advanced" version of the marquees bindings weak aura, that shows the cast time as well?

Actuelly, a weak aura that just show the current cast time of pyuroblast would be just as good. Just pure text, no icons or nothing, with like 1 or 2 decimals.

EDIT: Got a guildie to make it.

[Makz]

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Does anyone have the "advanced" version of the marquees bindings weak aura, that shows the cast time as well?

Actuelly, a weak aura that just show the current cast time of pyuroblast would be just as good. Just pure text, no icons or nothing, with like 1 or 2 decimals.

EDIT: Got a guildie to make it.

Take the weakaura your guildie made and put both it and the bracer proc aura into overlaying bars - now you can easily see if you have enough time for it. I run 1 weakaura which just gives me a text "Hardcast" under certain conditions.

[broedrost]

EDIT: Got a guildie to make it.

share plz

[Morzmand]

Hey guys,

Legendary Q: I got Drackli, Bel'ovir, Hands, Exodar and today got Kil Jaeden. For maximum performance, I'd assume Drackli+KJ? 2nd trink is 890 whisper, though i got 875 Metronome, 890 Stormsinger Fulmination and 880 Fury.
Another question: been playing with MI with decent results (500k+), but with 55crit/11haste/15mastery should I switch to RoP? Cinderstorm over Meteor?

Thanks a lot!

[Lahrast]

EDIT: Got a guildie to make it.

share plz

just whipped this up, its not elegand by any stretch but it gets the job done

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[Vyshaan]

Hey guys,

Legendary Q: I got Drackli, Bel'ovir, Hands, Exodar and today got Kil Jaeden. For maximum performance, I'd assume Drackli+KJ? 2nd trink is 890 whisper, though i got 875 Metronome, 890 Stormsinger Fulmination and 880 Fury.
Another question: been playing with MI with decent results (500k+), but with 55crit/11haste/15mastery should I switch to RoP? Cinderstorm over Meteor?

Thanks a lot!

Lege sounds right.
Whispers personaly i dont like and it makes sence with bracers only, metronome is much better.
Haste to low it seems, u can drop your crit a bit for more dps. U didnt mention vers which is great stat for MI.
Rop and cinders only of you're confident u can manage it properlY.

[Reven]

Once patch 7.2 hits, I wonder if it would be better to get the new Instability of the Tirisgarde trait and then move into getting 4/4 of the old BiS traits like Pyro damage and reducing Fireball cast time instead of getting the new stuff like longer Combustion and the random crit buff on PF.

It is just that the new traits don't feel like anything special worth investing right out of the gate, but on the other hand they move me closer to the new proc from Concordance of Legionfall.

[Zulandia]

Once patch 7.2 hits, I wonder if it would be better to get the new Instability of the Tirisgarde trait and then move into getting 4/4 of the old BiS traits like Pyro damage and reducing Fireball cast time instead of getting the new stuff like longer Combustion and the random crit buff on PF.

It is just that the new traits don't feel like anything special worth investing right out of the gate, but on the other hand they move me closer to the new proc from Concordance of Legionfall.

Tirisgarde will almost certainly be first (and concordance is not THAT strong/you have to get everything else first anyway fwiw). I'm working on the 7.2 paths currently hope to get them out in the next few days.

[Lahrast]

considering you've got 4 points to set initially it'll be tricky considering: every point you don't put in the new row gets you further away from straving run, which i'd consider rather strong.

on the other hand the usual bis traits are very strong (12k dps for 1 point in pyro for me lol, 9k for ignite), i wonder how bad the situation really is, additionally i'd say the 1s in combustion does give about jack shit dps

[Sarticus]

Hey guys, I only have a 900 ilvl Obelisk of Void. I already have a combo of 895 whispers with a metronome 890. Does anyone have a word on this? Is it better than my current one?

[Shinshia]

Hello all. First time posting here, but I have a question for you all. I am really stuck on trinkets and keep seeing different opinions. Currently for ST I've been using an ilvl 900 Star Gate and an ilvl 885 Metronome. Current stats are 49% crit, 20% haste, 10% mastery and 4% vers.

For AoE I've been using an ilvl 875 Fury of the burning sky and an ilvl 885 Urn with a socket. AoE set stats are 53% crit, 7% haste, 20% mastery and 4% vers. That being said, the other trinkets I have are an ilvl 890 Pharamere's with a socket, an ilvl 860 Ruby (I have the chest piece ilvl 880 too), an ilvl 860 arcano crystal, an ilvl 870 infernal writ. Do my stats seem right for the situation? is there a better trinket combination? I'm currently in the process of (at this point) praying for a whispers. I do also have 4 set. Any help is much appreciated! Thank you!

[Vyshaan]

Hello all. First time posting here, but I have a question for you all. I am really stuck on trinkets and keep seeing different opinions. Currently for ST I've been using an ilvl 900 Star Gate and an ilvl 885 Metronome. Current stats are 49% crit, 20% haste, 10% mastery and 4% vers.

For AoE I've been using an ilvl 875 Fury of the burning sky and an ilvl 885 Urn with a socket. AoE set stats are 53% crit, 7% haste, 20% mastery and 4% vers. That being said, the other trinkets I have are an ilvl 890 Pharamere's with a socket, an ilvl 860 Ruby (I have the chest piece ilvl 880 too), an ilvl 860 arcano crystal, an ilvl 870 infernal writ. Do my stats seem right for the situation? is there a better trinket combination? I'm currently in the process of (at this point) praying for a whispers. I do also have 4 set. Any help is much appreciated! Thank you!

It feels like you haven't read page 1...i can only say arcanocrystal for some reason sitting in the bag..try metronome+arcano and fury+arcano...