Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

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ezekielyo
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby ezekielyo Sun Dec 11, 2016 7:51 am

Meteor Build testing

Looking strong currently.
Is there an equipment list comparison between the two tests?
Or just a stat dump? (Int, crit, haste, mastery, vers) for us to compare?
Live

Int: 37711
Crit: 12951 - 62%
Haste: 3104 - 10%
Mastery: 3615 - 14%
Vers: 1371 - 3%


PTR

Int: 44648
Crit: 15929 - 55%
Haste: 3422 - 9%
Mastery: 3914 - 13%
Vers: 1320 - 3%
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Sosaria Mon Dec 12, 2016 1:07 am

Thanks Ezekielyo !
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Imaskar Mon Dec 12, 2016 9:00 am

I really hope Meteor won't be the top choice. Srsly, its so lame. This mechanic is only good against players, when they have to stack to survive damage. But against mobs? Just lame...
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Eyliria Mon Dec 12, 2016 2:58 pm

Meteor Build testing

Looking strong currently.
Is there an equipment list comparison between the two tests?
Or just a stat dump? (Int, crit, haste, mastery, vers) for us to compare?
Live

Int: 37711
Crit: 12951 - 62%
Haste: 3104 - 10%
Mastery: 3615 - 14%
Vers: 1371 - 3%


PTR

Int: 44648
Crit: 15929 - 55%
Haste: 3422 - 9%
Mastery: 3914 - 13%
Vers: 1320 - 3%
That's a lot more crit than I expected.
Having trouble breaking 52% on the PTR atm.

Last question. Are those all weakauras in your UI and are they available somewhere?
options
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby options Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:36 am

ezekielyo kindly sent me his weakaura sources:
They work great, and the Afenar github has a ton more.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Mage Tue Dec 13, 2016 1:38 am

Meteor Build testing

Looking strong currently.
Does it? I mean, 369k DPS on a 90M test is pretty abysmal compared to live, with 883 ilvl.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Eyliria Tue Dec 13, 2016 3:14 am

ezekielyo kindly sent me his weakaura sources:
They work great, and the Afenar github has a ton more.
Thank you
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby ezekielyo Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:22 am

Meteor Build testing

Looking strong currently.
Does it? I mean, 369k DPS on a 90M test is pretty abysmal compared to live, with 883 ilvl.
Remember this is without food/flask/pots. I've sustained a 450k build by using all consumables and also a 1.5min execute phase with the legendary belt over an 8min test.

Ptr also has a high ms for me so I do tend to clip fireblasts and have to cancel some casts here and there. It is indeed still lower than live but it has been improved significantly
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Eyliria Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:54 am

Legendary belt is going to be even worse than the bracers, it seems.
Worse in terms of being a required item if you want to live up to full potential.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Imaskar Mon Dec 19, 2016 4:40 pm

Maybe. But will good 30% of the fight drag shitty 70% up in the meters? I'm worried.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Eyliria Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:11 am

Even if it did, it shouldn't. We ought to be moving away from mandatory legendaries.

It's an incredibly infuriating system
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Mage Tue Dec 20, 2016 1:43 am

First it was who wins the lottery of correct legendaries, now it is who wins the nerf/buff lottery.
Disappointing.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Imaskar Tue Dec 20, 2016 9:01 am

Checked Koralon's a bit.
375 with belt (full execute, not very consistent rotation because of the ping)
325 without
Honestly, not that impressive. 15% for the 30% of the fight (but in reality - even less) is like 5% overall. Should be less than current bracers.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Syana Fri Dec 23, 2016 2:26 pm

You also have to take into account that we basically have unlimited movement during that 30%. This is quite significant since we no longer have Ice Floes.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Nimdro Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:30 am

Anyone that could test it flame strike build is still a st dps increase over the standard speccs?
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby debil Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:31 pm

I've tried to sim myself in simcraft for 7.1.0 and 7.1.5 and in second case it shows 33k more dps (with same talents and gear)
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Ballzonfire Tue Dec 27, 2016 2:08 am

Anyone that could test it flame strike build is still a st dps increase over the standard speccs?
https://youtu.be/Pv3SBnQhZoQ" target="_blank
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Fust Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:49 am

Well, that was depressing.
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Eyliria Tue Dec 27, 2016 9:55 am

R.I.P Flame Patch. There's no way you're coming out of the PTR that way now hahaha
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Re: Fire mage DPS comparison Live vs PTR build 7.1.5 (23109)

Unread postby Tagain Tue Dec 27, 2016 12:09 pm

I've tried to sim myself in simcraft for 7.1.0 and 7.1.5 and in second case it shows 33k more dps (with same talents and gear)
The current 7.1.5 SimCraft does not have to reduction of secondary stats. So you are running it with current crit-values which obviously won't be realistic.
R.I.P Flame Patch. There's no way you're coming out of the PTR that way now hahaha
They reduced Flame Patch damage in Legion PrePatch by 50% for exactly that reason. I was kinda surprised to see these buffs on PTR.

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