Combustion Technique - Tick compression

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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Kash Fri Aug 29, 2014 10:31 am

I am having a really hard time doing this trick, to it's max potential.

The highest ignite so far on dummy, selfbuffed was 1 million. I am a 585 undead fire mage, so gear isn't the issue. I tried different Things regarding mastery stacking, haste stacking, and whatnot. It just wont get higher than 1 mill.. Happened once. Usually it's around 700k.

Seen you Guys videos, and can't believe you can get those ignites, like very frequent.
I am doing an exact replica of the video.. My ignite just simply wont get that high.

Any suggestions, or a mentor that wanna go on dummy with me? :D
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Dutchmagoz Fri Aug 29, 2014 12:27 pm

I wouldnt expect much higher than 1million without a crit banner / mastery buff, you're not doing something really wrong.

My 2million ignite was on 11k mastery, however, I had mastery buff, stats buff, and crit banner. (No magic dmg amp or tricks though)
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Blugatti Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:15 pm

My highest was 1.3 self buffed, do you have BBoY, and if at what stack are you using AT?
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Kash Fri Aug 29, 2014 6:37 pm

Hey

Yea I have BBoY - http://eu.battle.net/wow/en/character/t ... h/advanced" target="_blank

Specced haste again, just so you don't say my mastery is low.. I know ;-)

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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Idiotbox Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:48 am

00:00:17.427 Idiotbox Ignite Bloodclaw 2383440
00:00:17.624 Idiotbox Combustion Bloodclaw 476688
00:00:17.896 Idiotbox Combustion Bloodclaw *999630*

can someone look through this log and try to explain to me why my peak was so low with a combustion/ignite like that? not to mention why my overall dps ended up so low...am i missing something in the log?
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Komma Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:51 am

00:00:17.427 Idiotbox Ignite Bloodclaw 2383440
00:00:17.624 Idiotbox Combustion Bloodclaw 476688
00:00:17.896 Idiotbox Combustion Bloodclaw *999630*

can someone look through this log and try to explain to me why my peak was so low with a combustion/ignite like that? not to mention why my overall dps ended up so low...am i missing something in the log?
999630/476688 ~= 2.097 ie. HWF PBoI.

You're missing Skull banner, which would have made it 1.20M Combustion crit ticks.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Idiotbox Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:54 am

i still don't understand how my dps was that low with an opening like that =P
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Komma Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:05 am

Kinda hard to log through some "log" when you didn't link any...
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Idiotbox Wed Sep 03, 2014 10:11 am

i'm really sorry -_- i could've sworn that i had linked it in my post.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c7m ... amage-done" target="_blank

sorry again =X
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Komma Wed Sep 03, 2014 8:35 pm

i'm really sorry -_- i could've sworn that i had linked it in my post.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/c7m ... amage-done" target="_blank

sorry again =X
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Idiotbox Wed Sep 03, 2014 9:14 pm

I'm not too worried about getting ranks as much as just improving each week. I guess i was just comparing to my results from last week and it confused me why my peak was so much lower considering that i had a weaker combustion the week before.

http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/A97 ... graph=true" target="_blank

That's last week's log. At this point i'm just assuming the reason is that the dogs died faster this due to more people focusing them compared to last week : / sad considering how much damage the combustion could have done if they had been alive longer.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Mageski Thu Sep 11, 2014 11:40 pm

Your combustion damage was lower overall in the second week because you had far fewer ticks, even though they were larger. Your 3:40 log only has two uses of Combustion and the 4:09 has three.

As for the difference in the peak, the dogs died roughly 8 seconds faster, lowering your initial burst.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Hendrikto Fri Sep 12, 2014 9:35 am

Has this been fixed on beta yet?

Btw: Peaked at just over 5m dps on Shamans using this trick with my Arcane Gear. Is it worth swapping out heroic KTT for normal BBoY to do this?
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Komma Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:41 pm

Has this been fixed on beta yet?

Btw: Peaked at just over 5m dps on Shamans using this trick with my Arcane Gear. Is it worth swapping out heroic KTT for normal BBoY to do this?
On build 18838 beta? No. On live? Also no. On PTR? I've heard conflicting reports, so I don't know.

I wouldn't bother with the trinket swap.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Hendrikto Mon Sep 15, 2014 6:42 pm

Is it possible to simulate this to calculate stat weights? Would love to optimize that, maybe even seperate BiS list?
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Frosted Mon Sep 15, 2014 8:08 pm

Is it possible to simulate this to calculate stat weights? Would love to optimize that, maybe even seperate BiS list?
Is it possible? Yes.

Do I want to put the time in to change how IB spread works for something that is going away in WoD? No.

Komma tossed the idea around in head for awhile, but I think that the lack of it being done makes it clear he lost interest in doing so.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Garrod Fri Oct 10, 2014 1:21 am

Had my best during an (awful) carry run for the last week of 5.4 on a Dark Shamans wipe -_-. http://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/TYx ... graph=true" target="_blank

Wish I'd gotten to do more with this given that my guild's been on break since August. Might try it in a few Flex runs this weekend just to enjoy it for the few days left that we still have it.
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Hobbies Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:46 pm

Has blizzard fixed this already? I was not able to raid since the patch, been testing stuff on dummies and I have not been able to get a big combustion like I used to
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Re: Combustion Technique - Tick compression

Unread postby Komma Wed Oct 15, 2014 7:49 pm

Has blizzard fixed this already?
Yes.
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