[7.3] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

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Glynny
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[7.3] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Glynny Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:51 pm

Hello,

Below I've put together some basic information for people derived from SimC runs to help guide mages choices on how they want to play Fire mage.

All gear used was base Mythic ToS gear with Bracers / Belt used as the legendary items (except for the legendary profile sims).

Talents used for the legendary profile sims were the highest rank talent choice in the talents section and the talent gain from Soul of the Archmage was accounted for.

Unless otherwise stated, the sim conditions were:

fixed_time=1
max_time=450
vary_combat_length=0.2
target_race=demon
iterations=5000
firestarter_time=20
threads=4
process_priority=low


1)Single Target Talents
2)Single Target Stat Weights
3)Two Target Talents
4)Two Target Priority Target Talents
5)Two Target Stat Weights
3)Four Target Talents
4)Four Target Priority Target DPS Talents
5)Four Target Stat Weights
6)Racials
7)Trinkets!
8)Artifact
9)Single Target Relics
10Two Target Relics
10Four Target Relics
11Neck Enchants
12Single Target Legedendries
13Two Target Legedendries
14Four Target Legedendries
15FAQ

Single Target Talents


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Single Target Stat Weights


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Two Target Talents


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Two Target Priority Target Talents


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Two Target Stat Weights


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Four Target Talents


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Four Target Priority Target DPS Talents


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Four Target Stat Weights


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Racials


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Trinkets!


Zulandia put together this great document will all trinkets and a staggered item level!
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... 1916091195
Artifact


Nothing has changed for 7.2.5. (Credits to Zulandia)
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Single Target Relics


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Two Target Relics


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Four Target Relics


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Neck Enchants


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Single Target Legedendries


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Two Target Legedendries


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Four Target Legedendries


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F.A.Q Section


To be updated once the threads gets a bit more popular.

Q 1) Why is haste so high for 4 targets stat weights? I thought mastery was better for 4 targets?
A 1) Fire with 4 stacked targets and just spams Flamestrike with Flame Patch. Haste with Flame Patch is very powerful.
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Re: [7.2.5] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Glynny Sat Jul 29, 2017 3:57 pm

Reserved monkaS
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Re: [7.2.5] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Spellie Tue Aug 01, 2017 3:03 am

Good job man!!
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Re: [7.2.5] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby resyek83 Tue Aug 01, 2017 5:20 am

Can anyone explain why Mastery is so highly rated now for single target?? I imagine it has to do something with guaranteed crits from firestarter and other set bonuses?
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Re: [7.2.5] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Pio Wed Aug 02, 2017 4:16 am

I wonder for fights like Mythic DA (Occasional cleave to the 2nd target, and some adds), Mistress(Lots of adds), and Hajatan(Occasion adds from eggs) . What would be the ideal stats weight, or how would you sim these encounters? I'm guessing thata mastery is still king and followed by haste?
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Re: [7.2.5] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Razyl Sat Aug 19, 2017 10:21 pm

What about the KJ relic: Torn Fabric of Reality?

How does it places with respect to other relics of the same ilvl?
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Re: [7.3] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby ardomur Sat Sep 30, 2017 10:07 pm

I always wondered about the Best Trait thingy... On the Grafic for "7.2 Fire Mage Artifact Trait Progression" as the 3rd Talent you take -cast time on Fireball... But the best Single Target Relic is Pyro, why? Shouldn't the Best Single Target Trait be the Best for the Trait Progression?^^ (i know its kinda irrelevent by now, i just wondered since 7.2 why we would go for -cast time first)
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Re: [7.3] Fire - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!

Unread postby Texhex Mon Nov 20, 2017 11:47 am

is there already a new list with simmed trinket-values from antorus raid (like the ones from zulandia) ?
havent found any except old 7.2.5 with Trinkets up to ToS

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