Shard > Koralon's??

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Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby Preheet Thu Sep 07, 2017 8:59 pm

According to the sims I've been running, Shard is pulling ahead by a decent amount on ST..

Simulation Details
Fight Style: Patchwerk
Boss Targets: 1
Fight Length (seconds): 300
Iterations: 10,000
SimC Version: Weekly (730-02)
SimC Build Date: Sep 7 2017
SimC Git Hash: cdf2562

According to my most recent sim, Shard pulls ahead by about 7k~ DPS over belt..

Stats (Unbuffed):
Int: 52, 582
Crit: 55.23% (14,093)
Haste: 19.52% (7,320)
Mastery: 17.09% (5,916)
Vers: 7.06% (3,354)

Not really a math guy, but as I understand it, Koralon's has always been the go-to ST second legendary pick. Any insight would be really helpful.

** Stat weights after sim
Crit: 24.63
Vers: 24.11
Haste: 23.48
Mastery: 22.70
Int: 19.98
* 1 point of Crit will increase your DPS by 24.63

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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby ezekielyo Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:34 am

Crit: 55.23% (14,093)
This is more than likely the cause.

Since belt gives you 100% crit chance on scorch below 30%, crit is literally only valuable for Pyro/FS. So, since scorch takes up the majority of dps time under 30% target hp, all of that crit could be spent elsewhere.

Crit is super valued because of this making the belt less lose a lot of it's power. Try swapping to non crit gear and see what the sim does.
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby Preheet Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:15 am

Crit: 55.23% (14,093)
This is more than likely the cause.

Since belt gives you 100% crit chance on scorch below 30%, crit is literally only valuable for Pyro/FS. So, since scorch takes up the majority of dps time under 30% target hp, all of that crit could be spent elsewhere.

Crit is super valued because of this making the belt less lose a lot of it's power. Try swapping to non crit gear and see what the sim does.
Interesting. Re-running it shows the opposite like you said. Kinda wish the Mastery Stacking Meme that is Fire would go away tbh.

Funny enough, my full Mastery setup Sim shows a 40k~ ish decrease.. (Being Belt/Mastery Gear) under Shard/High Crit gear
Crit: 35%
Haste: 23%
Mastery: 24%
Vers: 5%
Int: 54,135
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby ezekielyo Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:13 am

That is expected. A FULL mastery build doesn't do as well in ST since Haste and Vers are also valuable. See below for my ST sim results in different gear sets:

Full Mastery:
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Crit build with ring:
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Haste/Vers/Mastery Mix:
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As you can see, the results are similar to yours.
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby Ranax Sat Sep 09, 2017 9:30 am

It can also be the time, a 5 mins fight will favour more towards the ring than a 7 min fight.
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby Unreal Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:18 pm

It can also be the time, a 5 mins fight will favour more towards the ring than a 7 min fight.
Quite the opposite actually. Running 5 min means 2x BLs vs 3x Bls at 7min.

To be precise 5min is about the worst fightlength for shard, because your Lust uptime is lower than in a sub 5min fight or in a 6min fight where you'd have an additional BL.
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby DeathDefier Tue Sep 12, 2017 8:10 pm

A 5 minute length in simcraft with vary length is going to get 3 lusts off on some of the iterations.
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Re: Shard > Koralon's??

Unread postby Unreal Fri Sep 15, 2017 3:42 pm

A 5 minute length in simcraft with vary length is going to get 3 lusts off on some of the iterations.
That's because you can have a %-variance in fight length and I believe the default value is 20% variance.

I'm not talking about simming 5min though, I'm talking about an actual 5min encounter where it's impossible for you to have 3 Lusts.

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