Help with fire dps

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joes
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Help with fire dps

Unread postby joes Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:56 am

Hi!

I'm looking for help - trying to figure out what's wrong with my DPS.

Here's my "best" Garothi H kill: https://www.warcraftlogs.com/reports/kF ... &source=33
Here's a sim with my gear: https://www.raidbots.com/simbot/report/ ... QUPah/simc

Apparently I'm doing approximately 40% less than my simmed results. I understand that the sim is patchwerk, perfect rotation and does not account movement. But it's definitely not 40% lower. On a training dummy I can pull around 1.3m DPS though.

I know that my gear is fairly bad (too much haste/vers) and not enough crit/mastery. I'm working on that.

If I compare my logs to the sim, I can see few things:
1. Pyroblast crit % is slightly lower (minus 7-10%)
2. Pyroblast avg hit is 1.5m vs 1.8m simmed
3. Fireball crit % is like 15% lower than simmed
4. Fireball avg hit is 120k lower than simmed
5. Phoenix flames - pretty much same problem
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6. And so on.

I thought it might be my rotation, but I'm trying to squeeze as much casts into combustion phase as possible. 4 fireblasts, 3 phoenix flames, 2-3 scorches, etc. Still no cake.

Any tips will be appreciated.

Thank you!
Androkats
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Re: Help with fire dps

Unread postby Androkats Fri Dec 15, 2017 10:21 pm

Hello!

So I'm not sure why your spells arent hitting are hard as they are in your sim, but looking over your logs and your rotation and such I noticed a couple things.

It seems like outside of combustions you are hardly casting any pyroblasts at all, I think at one point your chain casted fireball 7 times, make sure you're using fire blasts to get heating up.

Also no pheonix flames casts really, they can be helpful in keeping pyrochains going

Also I highly recommend you don't use conflagration. The only bosses I would use it on is eonar and.. maybe high command? Use firestarter, especially since you don't have as much crit. This will change your opening rotation a bit, like giving you a mini combustion every pull.

A typical pull for me using firestarter looks like this.

>Prepot and begin casting pyroblast at 5 seconds
>As soon as pyroblast finishes casting cast Phoenix flames
>Pyroblast to consume hot streak
> Fire blast
>Pyroblast (hotstreak)
> Fireball
-fire blast to create hot streak
>Pyroblast (hotstreak)
>Fireball/pyroblast chain until boss gets to 90% hp
Then the very first spell that will hit the boss as 90% how you use combustion.

By the time the boss gets to 90% you'll typically be back at 3 Phoenix flames charges

Hope this helps a bit!
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Rouze
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Re: Help with fire dps

Unread postby Rouze Sat Dec 16, 2017 12:04 am

Do you have other trinkets maybe?
Sheath isn't very good unfortunately.

Check this to compare your trinkets
WARNING: Outdated, check hotfix from december 5th for changes.
Last edited by Rouze on Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:38 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Cinderquill
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Re: Help with fire dps

Unread postby Cinderquill Sat Dec 16, 2017 11:27 am

Sheath is actually decent after the buffs to most of the raid trinkets. You can tell it's not updated because the hotfix was December 5th i believe and last updated is November 25th. Sheath isn't optimal but it's at least decent atm
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Rouze
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Re: Help with fire dps

Unread postby Rouze Sat Dec 16, 2017 2:32 pm

Oh, I forgot about that, sorry.

Still, it's an int trinket with no use effect which is bound to be suboptimal for a fire mage.

The damage from the trinket in his parse was 1.07m

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