25th November Hotfixes

[Hendrikto]

Fire got buffed pretty hard (Pyroblast damage has been increased by 35%.) in the last round of hotfixes, does that make it viable once again?

[Boomop]

Wrong kind of buff imo. It just needed the 20% nerf undone.

This is going to cause so crazy RNG in the spec -- like you've never seen before. Pyro is way, way, WAY too much of Fire's dmg now.

[TLTeo]

Yeah 100% agree. Hopefully they'll address that in the next round of changes after raid release

[Dutchmagoz]

Agree, really wrong buffs. It will just make fire scale even more with gear than it already did, and make bad streaks of RNG absolutely horrible.

For current balance, I think this didn't fix fire's issues, it will still be below frost/arcane until full mythic/mythicWF gear, and a lot of adds to spread dots to.

[Boomop]

A change like this... especially with the 2pc and the 4pc... means that Mastery/Multistrike Fire Mages that get lucky with RNG will be dominating the meters by a mile.

But on avg, Fire Mages will do piddly DPS on the whole. It's a really bad change.

Some major issues for Fire:

1) Scorch dmg is WAY low. 1100 dmg Scorch vs 2400 Non-FoF Ice Lance is just stupid. (Ironically, putting more dmg into Pyro makes them have to keep Scorch dmg low, which is again, really dumb).

It's not a movement tool when not casting it is better than casting it.

2) Fireball is less DPCT than Frostbolt.

--Drop it to a 2 sec cast time
--Buff the dmg by~20%
--Buff Scorch to always be ~33-40% the dmg of Fireball (better yet, leave Scorch dmg low, but have it deal Ignite dmg like it was the same dmg as Fireball -- this would make it a legit movement tool).

3) Pyro... I really don't need to say anymore about Pyro. With Multistrike, Fire's RNG is much higher than it ever has been. Pyro dmg should be brought down (the dmg kept high in its DoT to make it worth casting).

P.S. It really seems like the Devs don't understand the relationship between Scorch, Fireball, and Pyro in Fire's rotation.

4) Blizzard seems to be totally ignoring the impact of the 2 and 4 pc on Fire. And just balancing as if every Fire Mage is going to have it.

4pc -- They DRAMATICALLY change what stats a normal fire rotation would prioritize. 100% auto crit through a gimmicky setpiece is bad for a spec that should otherwise be stacking Crit.

2pc -- The charged IB should be baselined. For every reason Conflag is for Destro. Although mechanically different, IB fills a very similar role in Fire's spec as Conflag does in Destros.

[oomy]

Are we sure blizzard reads these forums