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Re: 7.2.5 - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 3:06 am
by Lahrast
Thanks alot for this.
For me, my (semi bad) 2pc + 4pc still sims better than my legendary helm + offpiece. I don't know if this is the best place to ask, but is titanforged 2pc from tier 19 gonna be the best all tier? (I have 915 helm and 905 cloak).
It's possible. Norrinir created the default T20_Frost_Mythic profile simming all possible gear combinations from T19/T20 (all base mythic item level 905 for t19, 930 for t20) and the highest was using shoulders/legs from t19 tier.
at least for GS the legendary head wins against the bracer when compared to a 915+socket helm/905+socket t19 legs, this could however drastically change if you take cleave in to account. the leg helm
can(!!) cleave
reeally good if the timing is nice .. but it's rather difficult or impossible to time imo
i'm currently at a loss to be honest
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Sun Jul 09, 2017 3:28 pm
by Nibbler
Can someone tell me the mage frost bis list for ToS?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 12:15 am
by StoneDog0055
Unfourtantly due to TF, BiS lists have gone out the window.
The two most common TV set-ups right now are:
- 2PT19 + 4PT20 with Bracers/shard
- 4PT20 with Helm/Shard
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 7:48 pm
by Glynny
[11/07/2017 - Added legendary profiles (big thanks to Norrinir for the help!)
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:59 pm
by Nibbler
Unfourtantly due to TF, BiS lists have gone out the window.
The two most common TV set-ups right now are:
- 2PT19 + 4PT20 with Bracers/shard
- 4PT20 with Helm/Shard
The most 2pt19 i've seen is trousers and back, is that right?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2017 6:07 pm
by 3lorian
Thank you for the leggo numbers!!!
My only question is this
Is the shard/bracer combo including a 2/4 combo?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:44 am
by Glynny
Thank you for the leggo numbers!!!
My only question is this
Is the shard/bracer combo including a 2/4 combo?
Anything that does not have a tier legendary (Vashj Gloves, Ice Time Shoulder etc) will have t19 2pc.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 1:46 am
by Glynny
Unfourtantly due to TF, BiS lists have gone out the window.
The two most common TV set-ups right now are:
- 2PT19 + 4PT20 with Bracers/shard
- 4PT20 with Helm/Shard
The most 2pt19 i've seen is trousers and back, is that right?
Pants and shoulders are the highest simming combo at base mythic item level, but titanforging may change this in your case. You should sim yourself.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Wed Jul 19, 2017 11:26 pm
by Dutchmagoz
Stickied! Thanks a lot for the effort that went into it.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2017 2:48 am
by Boya
Glynny is it possible for you to check or do you know how to optimal use the Owl trinket? I have 2 frozen veins relics on weapon so the the trinket doesnt line up good with IV at all. My 3rd Owl only gets like 5 seconds of IV. So is it worth holding IV for 10-20 secs or should i just use both IV and Owl on cd?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:11 am
by Syntek
Hey guys. From what I see here and my own sims there really don't seem to be a reason to waste $25 for a racechange to make my undead into troll/orc. Is that true or is the extra damage CD very useful in a lot of fights despite not showing up hard in the sims?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:03 am
by Frantik
Hey guys. From what I see here and my own sims there really don't seem to be a reason to waste $25 for a racechange to make my undead into troll/orc. Is that true or is the extra damage CD very useful in a lot of fights despite not showing up hard in the sims?
race changing for the dps gain only was never worth it (unless you re part of a cutting edge group M+ or raiding wise).
Racials contribute only a minor portion of your overall damage(for troll/dwarf) which is negligible most of the times
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:24 pm
by Pytson
Hello,
Guys I have short question about legendary bracers buff. Do you casting "raw" ice lance (without fingers of frost proc) when you got 6 stacks legendary bracers buff and it's going to expire? Is it worth casting that one low dmg ice lance instead building 6 stacks again? Or you just doesn't track that buff at all?
Sorry for my poor english.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:38 pm
by Xinder
Hello,
Guys I have short question about legendary bracers buff. Do you casting "raw" ice lance (without fingers of frost proc) when you got 6 stacks legendary bracers buff and it's going to expire? Is it worth casting that one low dmg ice lance instead building 6 stacks again? Or you just doesn't track that buff at all?
Sorry for my poor english.
I still track the buff but it's not necessary to do what you're describing. Just think of the buff as a nice to have and as long as you're doing your rotation correctly you'll have a high uptime on the buff.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 10:47 pm
by Nibbler
I get my legendary brazzers today so one question: I must keep 6 stacks up in entire fight, even if i dotn got flurry or ice lance proc ready?
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 11:20 pm
by Xinder
I get my legendary brazzers today so one question: I must keep 6 stacks up in entire fight, even if i dotn got flurry or ice lance proc ready?
The post above yours is my answer to someone else who asked the same thing.....
You do not want to cast unempowered Ice lances just for the sake of keeping up the buff. It's a helpful dps increase when you do have procs and are using empowered ice lances but you shouldn't be using unempowered ones just for the sake of the buff.
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 12:13 am
by Nibbler
I get my legendary brazzers today so one question: I must keep 6 stacks up in entire fight, even if i dotn got flurry or ice lance proc ready?
The post above yours is my answer to someone else who asked the same thing.....
You do not want to cast unempowered Ice lances just for the sake of keeping up the buff. It's a helpful dps increase when you do have procs and are using empowered ice lances but you shouldn't be using unempowered ones just for the sake of the buff.
Thx and sorry didnt see the post above mine
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2017 1:16 pm
by Kot
Hi
What should I do when I have proc BF and Orb is ready?
1. If I cast FB>Flurry>IL I can take another proc BF which won't reduce CD of Orb
2. If I cast Orb>FB>Flurry>IL I lose proc FoF
Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:09 am
by broedrost
Hi
What should I do when I have proc BF and Orb is ready?
1. If I cast FB>Flurry>IL I can take another proc BF which won't reduce CD of Orb
2. If I cast Orb>FB>Flurry>IL I lose proc FoF
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Re: [7.2.5] TV - Talents, Relics, Stats, Racials & More!
Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:51 am
by Cablok
Are the sims for shard of exodar showing two lusts over the fight duration or three?