[6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Komma Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:58 pm

Thanks for the confirmation, however when I simc the results I posted above I get less dps(like between 50-100) then my current stack haste like a maniac setup any ideas why this is?
Exact gains are always dependent on your gear. Different levels of crit/haste/mastery/multistrike will always skew numbers.
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Snobby Fri Oct 31, 2014 5:25 am

Thanks for the confirmation, however when I simc the results I posted above I get less dps(like between 50-100) then my current stack haste like a maniac setup any ideas why this is?
Exact gains are always dependent on your gear. Different levels of crit/haste/mastery/multistrike will always skew numbers.
In that case would we follow what simcraft says (stack haste) or go with the balance haste/(mastery+100)? Or is the difference so small it would not matter >.>
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby gillon Wed Nov 05, 2014 2:19 pm

When looking at the, supposedly, best case scenario on simulationcraft.org they seem to favor haste quite a bit over mastery. Am I reading that wrong, or is there a reason for this that I'm missing?
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Huunu Thu Nov 06, 2014 11:34 am



Stat priorities????
Multistrike > int > crit cap (36.33%) > haste while at least a 100 points below mastery, and below 50% > mastery > haste when within a 100 points of mastery > crit after critcap > haste after 50%

Basically, go for the critcap, then keep your haste somewhere around 50-100 below your mastery, while staying above 25% haste


Dutch. Nice guide man. But I have two questions.
1- I checked your armory and according to armory ur crit is 31%ish . Why is that ? You rather to get more mastery instead of crit to bosses ?
2- 100 haste below mastery is for buffed or unbuffed situations exactly ?
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

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Stat priorities????
Multistrike > int > crit cap (36.33%) > haste while at least a 100 points below mastery, and below 50% > mastery > haste when within a 100 points of mastery > crit after critcap > haste after 50%

Basically, go for the critcap, then keep your haste somewhere around 50-100 below your mastery, while staying above 25% haste


Dutch. Nice guide man. But I have two questions.
1- I checked your armory and according to armory ur crit is 31%ish . Why is that ? You rather to get more mastery instead of crit to bosses ?
2- 100 haste below mastery is for buffed or unbuffed situations exactly ?


1. 31% unbuffed = 36% buffed. 3% crit suppression = 33% crit = critcap.
2. Buffed
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Huunu Thu Nov 06, 2014 12:52 pm



Stat priorities????
Multistrike > int > crit cap (36.33%) > haste while at least a 100 points below mastery, and below 50% > mastery > haste when within a 100 points of mastery > crit after critcap > haste after 50%

Basically, go for the critcap, then keep your haste somewhere around 50-100 below your mastery, while staying above 25% haste


Dutch. Nice guide man. But I have two questions.
1- I checked your armory and according to armory ur crit is 31%ish . Why is that ? You rather to get more mastery instead of crit to bosses ?
2- 100 haste below mastery is for buffed or unbuffed situations exactly ?


1. 31% unbuffed = 36% buffed. 3% crit suppression = 33% crit = critcap.
2. Buffed



Ty. I was just confused because my crit seems %36.39 according to armory and yours %31. Still dunno why it seems like that tbh :P
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Laere Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:27 pm

Are these stat priorities going to be the same in WoD?

If not does anyone know what is.
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby Dutchmagoz Fri Nov 07, 2014 6:59 pm

Are these stat priorities going to be the same in WoD?

If not does anyone know what is.
Roughly. The haste/mastery relationship will change, I'm not 100% sure yet on what.
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Re: [6.0] Dutch's Frost FAQ & mini guide for level 90!

Unread postby nathyiel Fri Nov 07, 2014 7:39 pm

it will depend on talent/glyph choice :
Mirror Image like haste
Unstable Magic work good with both Haste and Mastery
Thermal Void without glyph don't like having too much haste.
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Unread postby Laere Fri Nov 07, 2014 8:21 pm

I have no experience on the boss fights on beta. I will also most likely be using PC, and MI (not sure how movement based the fights are for RoP). I just don't want to take a piece of gear and later find out its bad for me, and good for another raider.

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